Why did the 3rd Edition Billiard Encyclopedia Omit Ned Morris? A Mistake?

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Building cues for over 30 years. He is an absolutely amazing cue maker. I've seen his work, played with his cues and have seen at least a dozen of his most decorative cues. HOW can he not be in the cue makers of that edition? There must be an answer?? Maybe his paperwork and pictures got lost? Wonder if anyone knows. If you've ever played with his cues, you would know his workmanship and quality. Playability 2nd to none.
 
Building cues for over 30 years. He is an absolutely amazing cue maker. I've seen his work, played with his cues and have seen at least a dozen of his most decorative cues. HOW can he not be in the cue makers of that edition? There must be an answer?? Maybe his paperwork and pictures got lost? Wonder if anyone knows. If you've ever played with his cues, you would know his workmanship and quality. Playability 2nd to none.
Don't know if you are referring to the Blue book or Billiard Encyclopedia. The Blue Book you had to send in your information by a certain date. Also I remember for B.E . they were at the BCA show doing pictures. They had to be high quality. If you were not there, may have been a chance you got left out. I'm pretty sure your friend is in the B.B.

Mostly, getting in was up to you. Pictures of mine used in the Billiard Encyclopedia, I was paid for and Victor signed a letter for a single use. Means nothing today, everything ends up on the internet anyway.
 
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Building cues for over 30 years. He is an absolutely amazing cue maker. I've seen his work, played with his cues and have seen at least a dozen of his most decorative cues. HOW can he not be in the cue makers of that edition? There must be an answer?? Maybe his paperwork and pictures got lost? Wonder if anyone knows. If you've ever played with his cues, you would know his workmanship and quality. Playability 2nd to none.
Heres some stuff on him from the blue book. If you look at his facebook most of what he is building today seems pretty plain. The fancy stuff seems to be before 2013. You said he split with his partner. Is it possible the really fancy cues were built by the partner?
 

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Why are you obsessed with ned morris?
He likely has one of his cues, knows someone that does or maybe met him in the past.
He could be fascinated, or just fixated, why Ned Morris cues he admired didn’t sell fast.

The reality is the secondary marketplace has the final word on pool cue prices and demand.
It basically determines cue values for sale, or insurance purposes & a cue maker’s popularity.
 
Ned Morris makes very good playing cues for a reasonable price. There is a good market for his cues on the West Coast.
 
Building cues for over 30 years. He is an absolutely amazing cue maker. I've seen his work, played with his cues and have seen at least a dozen of his most decorative cues. HOW can he not be in the cue makers of that edition? There must be an answer?? Maybe his paperwork and pictures got lost? Wonder if anyone knows. If you've ever played with his cues, you would know his workmanship and quality. Playability 2nd to none.

Probably didn't provide cues, photos, info in a timely manner -- the authors weren't going to chase anyone down so they could be included.

Lou Figueroa
 
In reality, there is no true price point for a "great" playing cue - if we look at playability being the sole deciding factor on value. As someone who has a lot of experience with actually playing with various cues by custom makers, I know that you can, by chance, pick up a $50 cue and say wow " this cue hits great". Yet, you will probably never convince someone to give you $500 for that cue.

What you should expect from a true quality custom maker in terms of playability is consistency of that feeling throughout most if not all the cues that they build. In production cues, one should anticipate some hit and miss on consistency.

I think that the higher end custom makers have proven their cue's playing consistency to the discerning cue aficionados over a long period of time. Ned Morris cues may possess critical acclaim as to their playability- but that reputation has to be spread far and wide along with other market related factors for his cues to rise in value.

This thread is the first time I heard someone rave about Ned Morris cues- goes to prove that marketing- no matter how it is achieved, becomes a big factor in perceived value - especially when other revered consumers support someone's claim of a great product. That is mostly how GB, Szamboti, Scruggs etc. became cherished cues, ( continued positive reviews by well respected/ well known consumers supported by consistent results from the producer) - then the laws of supply and demand take over in the market.
 
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Ned Morris is very busy. He has loads of materials as he's bought out other cue makers and he'll always be doing repairs and making cues until he says he done. Guess one has to play with his cues to realize what I've written about. Jay Helfert owns one and he knows. My reason for this post was that he was not mentioned in the Billiard Encyclopedia even though his cues were pictured under a collector.
 
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