Snapshot9 said:
He probably hasn't been able to get the stickers off it yet....
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why do you recommend custom cues?
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He probably hasn't been able to get the stickers off it yet....
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pharaoh68
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Egg McDogit said:
Now I believe you... because you just said that "if you find a good Players, it'll play as good as a good house cue." And you said earlier that a good Players, it'll play just as good if not better than Scruggs, Hercek, Black, etc.
So, long story short, you're saying that a house cue plays better than a Scruggs? This is just getting silly.
The Ultimate point ...
I think what has emerged is this:
No money = no better cue = My $60 cue is just as good.
and I can sympathecize with you, I am not in a financial situation
to get cues I would like to have. Most people that do buy a cue,
especially a custom cue, have to save money for it over a period
of time, sometimes a long time, and many when they do get a
custom cue plan on it being for a lifetime.
Most people do not go from a $100 cue to a $3,000 cue. Equipment
kind of goes like your game, the better you become, the more awareness
you have towards different equipment, usually better equipment.
It all depends on what you want and what you can afford.
Pool is learned in graduated steps over time, and usually knowledge
about different equipment happens the same way.
I know that if I had money like I used to have, I would end up being a
collector of cues, cases, and jump cues, so it probably is a good
thing that I don't have much money now .... lol or I would being saying
the guys on AZB made me do it ...lol
I think what has emerged is this:
No money = no better cue = My $60 cue is just as good.
and I can sympathecize with you, I am not in a financial situation
to get cues I would like to have. Most people that do buy a cue,
especially a custom cue, have to save money for it over a period
of time, sometimes a long time, and many when they do get a
custom cue plan on it being for a lifetime.
Most people do not go from a $100 cue to a $3,000 cue. Equipment
kind of goes like your game, the better you become, the more awareness
you have towards different equipment, usually better equipment.
It all depends on what you want and what you can afford.
Pool is learned in graduated steps over time, and usually knowledge
about different equipment happens the same way.
I know that if I had money like I used to have, I would end up being a
collector of cues, cases, and jump cues, so it probably is a good
thing that I don't have much money now .... lol or I would being saying
the guys on AZB made me do it ...lol
that's not what I'm disputing. I'm annoyed by the people who recommend custom cues saying that they hit/play better by nature of being custom.
Cornerman said:
Yes, I am...I don't think it's silly at all. I think there are other people that'd agree with me on this. What is your idea of a good hitting cue? The one with the most ivory?
pharaoh68 said:
Do you honestly think that this is "so hard for people to understand"?pooltchr said:
What players have you ever encountered think for one second that a $5k cue will make them play better? How about none?
I think it's fair however to say that quality is going to come at a price. That's true of anything. The biggest factor that keeps costs of quality lower is manufacturing economics.
Fred
I think they do...Egg McDogit said:
I stated this earlier:
Custom Cues are made by cue makers. Production cues are made by people who just work for the company.
Purdman
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Egg
Buddy, if you like the way your $60 cue plays and you can get the job done with it, by all means, stick with it. I know guys that have cues worth 20 grand that can't play worth a lick. The cue is not the most important factor. You and your ability are what counts. JMHO
Purdman
Buddy, if you like the way your $60 cue plays and you can get the job done with it, by all means, stick with it. I know guys that have cues worth 20 grand that can't play worth a lick. The cue is not the most important factor. You and your ability are what counts. JMHO
Purdman
Purdman said:Buddy, if you like the way your $60 cue plays and you can get the job done with it, by all means, stick with it. I know guys that have cues worth 20 grand that can't play worth a lick. The cue is not the most important factor. You and your ability are what counts. JMHO
Purdman
You said a mouthful there Don.
It isn't all the cue, it is the player! Many of the greatest players I've seen use Sneakies of some sort (just house cues cut in half and tapered..lets be real).
I hate to say this, but to a certain extent it used to be you'd see a guy with real fancy equipment and think, "That guy is a player." Now you see someone with real fancy equipment and you start salivating, thinking you've found some easy action. Not true in all cases....but the majority I'd say.
Purdman
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Matt_24 said:
Actually, I know Egg. He's a pretty nice fellow. If you seen him in a pool hall with that purple cue with the crazy handle, you would be quick to set up a match. He really doesn't play bad with it. Looks goofey as hell but that just might be what he wants you to think. There is more than one way to hustle a cat.
Don
Purdman said:
Shoot, I know a millionaire who plays with an Action Butt and predator shaft. He constantly breaks them and loves slamming them around. He PURELY buys a cue to play with and couldn't FATHOM spending over $100 on the butt. It is hilarious, but he plays REALLY good one pocket.
I was actually agreeing with Egg. I love Schon's! Also, I agree you don't need some fancy cue, but they are nice to have if you have the means to finance one, or two, or three.
I love that sweet little KIKEL you shoot with!
agreed...although I wouldn't mind having a collection like yours 
Purdman said:Buddy, if you like the way your $60 cue plays and you can get the job done with it, by all means, stick with it. I know guys that have cues worth 20 grand that can't play worth a lick. The cue is not the most important factor. You and your ability are what counts. JMHO
Purdman
Cornerman said:
Fred,
You've been around enough to have heard that. There are plenty of players out there who think that a new/different cue is going to help improve their game. I can count a dozen that play every Wednesday night in my league. I will admit that higher quality cues are available, and that they might bring a dose of confidence to the new owner...but you and I both know the cue ball doesn't know what kind of stick hit it. But you will never convince some people that a more expensive cue isn't going to make them play better. It's not the cue, it's the shooter.
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I think the production cue versus custom cue argument can also be applied to guitars. A great musician can make a cheap guitar sound fantastic; much in the same way a great pool player can play great with a broomstick.
Three ways to find a good guitar:
1. Go to multiple dealers/pawn shops in search of a cheap low end production guitar that plays and sounds good. This will probably take considerable time and require a certain amount of luck.
2. Buy a high-end production guitar such as Martin or Taylor. They play well for a reasonable cost.
3. Buy a custom guitar hand made to specification. The cost can range from reasonable to many thousands of dollars.
Three ways to find a good pool cue:
1. Go to multiple dealers/pawn shops in search of a cheap low end production cue or house cue that feels right and plays good. This will probably take considerable time and require a certain amount of luck.
2. Buy a high-end production cue such as Joss or Schon. They play well for a reasonable cost.
3. Buy a custom cue hand made to specification. The cost can range from reasonable to many thousands of dollars.
All three options are good. But I think purchasing a high end production cue makes the most sense. Plus you don't have to worry about damage and ease of replacement. However, I sold my Schon and purchased a custom Blackcreek. Best thing I have done. I could not be happier. So I guess I have no sense!
Jonathan
Three ways to find a good guitar:
1. Go to multiple dealers/pawn shops in search of a cheap low end production guitar that plays and sounds good. This will probably take considerable time and require a certain amount of luck.
2. Buy a high-end production guitar such as Martin or Taylor. They play well for a reasonable cost.
3. Buy a custom guitar hand made to specification. The cost can range from reasonable to many thousands of dollars.
Three ways to find a good pool cue:
1. Go to multiple dealers/pawn shops in search of a cheap low end production cue or house cue that feels right and plays good. This will probably take considerable time and require a certain amount of luck.
2. Buy a high-end production cue such as Joss or Schon. They play well for a reasonable cost.
3. Buy a custom cue hand made to specification. The cost can range from reasonable to many thousands of dollars.
All three options are good. But I think purchasing a high end production cue makes the most sense. Plus you don't have to worry about damage and ease of replacement. However, I sold my Schon and purchased a custom Blackcreek. Best thing I have done. I could not be happier. So I guess I have no sense!
Jonathan
We all know that...
Everyone knows that, but you can say a new mitt won't make you a better baseball player, but if you don't drop the ball as much with the new mitt, you are in fact a better player because of it. Better equipment has allowed me to break better with fewer miscues or jumping the table, has allowed to be more consistent in my gamee, has allowed me to make jump shots I couldn't make before. Now, doesn't that, in fact, make me a better player? You argument in general sounds good, but when you get down to specifics, it is, in fact, a 2 edged sword.
pooltchr said:
Everyone knows that, but you can say a new mitt won't make you a better baseball player, but if you don't drop the ball as much with the new mitt, you are in fact a better player because of it. Better equipment has allowed me to break better with fewer miscues or jumping the table, has allowed to be more consistent in my gamee, has allowed me to make jump shots I couldn't make before. Now, doesn't that, in fact, make me a better player? You argument in general sounds good, but when you get down to specifics, it is, in fact, a 2 edged sword.