why do you recommend custom cues?

[iacas]

Why is it so hard for people to understand this concept? A $5000 cue isn't going to make me a better player. I am the only one who can make me a better player. But I have to accept responsibility for what is wrong in my game. If it's the cue, the table, the balls, the pockets. or anything else, I have no control...and I can't get better. If I am making mistakes, I can address them and become a better player.
A good player will adjust to the equipment...a poor player will blame it!
Steve

While I agree with that in principle, I will point out that there's a reason PGA Tour pros don't play with Snake Eyes golf clubs.

To those who are in tune with their games, a better cue can make all the difference, even if it's purely emotional (i.e. confidence) in the world. If it's the difference between making or missing ONE shot in a tournament, that one shot may be important.

And given the confidence factor, well, odds are it's a lot more than one shot.

You can't "buy" a better game... to a point. But get two guys with equal skill, give one a $19.95 cue from Wal-Mart and give the other a $1995 custom cue fitted to his preference, and I'll place my money on the latter player.

 

[Egg McDogit]

wow, really? How much to change out a joint, wrap, ferrule, and tip? That alone would cost more than half of the production cues out there.....

joint type - you can find production cues with whatever joint if you feel that the joint has a lot to do with the cue's playability and hit. Or I guess you could go and get a joss and decide you have to have a radial pin on it.

wrap - if you want a specific color of irish linen or whatever, you can get it redone pretty cheap unless you want leather, which'll cost around 100

ferrule - I don't even know why you'd want to change the ferrule unless you insist on ivory - if you get a custom, they'll charge you extra for it anyways

I'd prefer to do it once and do it right. Why give a Yugo a $3000 paint job?

so you consider a cue a yugo if it isn't custom or if it's a cheap production? If you're concerned about branding or how the cue looks - then go ahead and get a custom. But don't think your expensive custom plays better than a decent production cue.

 

[Egg McDogit]

if you want to put money down, you got action. Give me the 6 out and the breaks and I'll play you with a phenolic tipped break cue. You can use whatever you want. bet as much as you can.

You can't "buy" a better game... to a point. But get two guys with equal skill, give one a $19.95 cue from Wal-Mart and give the other a $1995 custom cue fitted to his preference, and I'll place my money on the latter player.

 

[1pRoscoe]

joint type - you can find production cues with whatever joint if you feel that the joint has a lot to do with the cue's playability and hit. Or I guess you could go and get a joss and decide you have to have a radial pin on it.

wrap - if you want a specific color of irish linen or whatever, you can get it redone pretty cheap unless you want leather, which'll cost around 100

ferrule - I don't even know why you'd want to change the ferrule unless you insist on ivory - if you get a custom, they'll charge you extra for it anyways



so you consider a cue a yugo if it isn't custom or if it's a cheap production? If you're concerned about branding or how the cue looks - then go ahead and get a custom. But don't think your expensive custom plays better than a decent production cue.

Jesus, you are taking my post entirely out of context and comprehending what you want to, not what was written.....

obviously there is no reasoning with you on this subject.

 

[1pRoscoe]

if you want to put money down, you got action. Give me the 6 out and the breaks and I'll play you with a phenolic tipped break cue. You can use whatever you want. bet as much as you can.

Why ask for that much weight? Is your "Players" cue not good enough to match up head to head?

 

[Snapshot9]

Yeah, what he said ...

Why ask for that much weight? Is your "Players" cue not good enough to match up head to head?

This is really funny ... ROFL ... He said he accepts responsibility with what is wrong with his game, not the equipments fault, then ask for the 6 out. What is wrong with this picture Folks? .... lol Are you indicating you just aren't smart enough to figure this game out? That's the indication I am getting. And you can have the 6 out with me getting the breaks for a
big dime a set? Minimum 3 sets post. No, you can't buy your game, and
YOU ALSO CAN NOT BUY COMMON SENSE, you either have it or you don't.

 

[dooziexx]

I play with a $60 production cue. I find that a good deal of el cheapo production cues play just as good or even better than almost all customs I've tried/owned. My view on 90% of custom cues is that functionally, they are no better than a production cue - and that the added cost is mainly decorative.

The best hitting cue I've ever had my hands on is a players. Tried to buy it, but the guy wouldn't sell it for a reasonable price and I couldn't stand the thought of paying a couple times what he bought it for new. In retrospect, I wish I'd just bought it.

Anyways, there are a lot of posts on this forum along the lines of "what cue should I get for $500?". Inevitably, one of the responses is "go with a custom cue by John Doe, it's a much better option".

So my question is why do you feel that a custom cue is a better option? Why would you recommend one over other options to another person? Just asking

Play with whatever you want that feels good to you.... Noone says you have to play with a custom...

 

[Egg McDogit]

try reading the post. I said I'll play you with a PHENOLIC TIPPED BREAK CUE

Why ask for that much weight? Is your "Players" cue not good enough to match up head to head?

 

[Purdman]

This is really funny ... ROFL ... He said he accepts responsibility with what is wrong with his game, not the equipments fault, then ask for the 6 out. What is wrong with this picture Folks? .... lol Are you indicating you just aren't smart enough to figure this game out? That's the indication I am getting. And you can have the 6 out with me getting the breaks for a
big dime a set? Minimum 3 sets post. No, you can't buy your game, and
YOU ALSO CAN NOT BUY COMMON SENSE, you either have it or you don't.

You better watch it Scott! If someone shows up where you play with one of those Pink Stealth cues with the weird handle, look out. It just might be Egg!!
Purdman ( Believes we play with what we can afford to)

 

[Egg McDogit]

again read the post. I want the 6 out with a PHENOLIC TIPPED BREAK CUE. You want some of this action? I might take your game if YOU play with a phenolic tipped break cue.

This is really funny ... ROFL ... He said he accepts responsibility with what is wrong with his game, not the equipments fault, then ask for the 6 out. What is wrong with this picture Folks? .... lol Are you indicating you just aren't smart enough to figure this game out? That's the indication I am getting. And you can have the 6 out with me getting the breaks for a
big dime a set? Minimum 3 sets post. No, you can't buy your game, and
YOU ALSO CAN NOT BUY COMMON SENSE, you either have it or you don't.

 

[1pRoscoe]

try reading the post. I said I'll play you with a PHENOLIC TIPPED BREAK CUE

I did read the post. You made a thread about custom cues, don't like (or agree with) the responses thus far, then proceed to challenge people but will not use your cue.

 

[pharaoh68]

It's great that you like your custom cue and btw I think bob frey makes great sneaky petes.

I've owned several el cheapo cues that played just as good or better than most customs I've played with. Oh I've played with hercek, black, scruggs, frey, lambros, samsara, etc. etc. I've played with a couple players/stealths that hit REALLY good. As in "good schon" good. I consider a good hitting schon to be nearly unbeatable.

When I read your first post, my initial reaction was that this might be a good platform for debate. Then, after reading this post, I'm beginning to wonder if pool might be the right game for you because if you can honestly sit there and tell me that A) Schons are the best cues out there; and that B) Stealths and Players play better than Hercek Scruggs, than I can confidently sit back here and say that you know too little about the game to make an accurate assesment and, maybe you should stick to darts or ping-pong or something.

But thank you for stopping by.

 

[Egg McDogit]

Your point is buy a custom cue to get exactly what you want from the get go.

My point is all I want is a cue that plays good - and that you can find one of these cues pretty easily without going to a custom cuemaker and without shelling out big bucks, if you don't have the money to spend.

I'm a streetplayer and just learning so of course I need some spot to play a stranger who plays advanced games like 1 pocket.

I did read the post. You made a thread about custom cues, don't like (or agree with) the responses thus far, then proceed to challenge people but will not use your cue.

 

[Egg McDogit]

that's right I'm a pretty stupid guy and I'm a beginner. If I get the 4 out and the breaks, I think I'm probably supposed to win.

This is really funny ... ROFL ... He said he accepts responsibility with what is wrong with his game, not the equipments fault, then ask for the 6 out. What is wrong with this picture Folks? .... lol Are you indicating you just aren't smart enough to figure this game out? That's the indication I am getting. And you can have the 6 out with me getting the breaks for a
big dime a set? Minimum 3 sets post. No, you can't buy your game, and
YOU ALSO CAN NOT BUY COMMON SENSE, you either have it or you don't.

 

[ScottR]

Play with whatever you want that feels good to you.... Noone says you have to play with a custom...

Tap, tap, Erik.

I think I'll start a thread about how automobiles are just transportation, so why should I get rid of my Dodge Neon for a <<insert name of premium car company here>> that does the same thing.

Naahhhh. A thread like that would just be inviting a flame war; doesn't make sense since I already have my mind made up, huh?

 

[1pRoscoe]

Your point is buy a custom cue to get exactly what you want from the get go.

My point is all I want is a cue that plays good - and that you can find one of these cues pretty easily without going to a custom cuemaker and without shelling out big bucks, if you don't have the money to spend.

I'm a streetplayer and just learning so of course I need some spot to play a stranger who plays advanced games like 1 pocket.

I never challenged you. I live in TX. You are only a few thousand miles away, so it would be pretty gay for me to do that.....

Obviously you have a cue that plays good for you. Please don't dispute the opinions of those people that have posted in this thread when you asked for them in the first place. I know what plays well for me and what I will spend my money on. It may be different than what you would, but doesn't make it wrong.

It's kind of hard to discredit a personal preference, isn't it? You can keep trying though if it makes you feel any better.

 

[Egg McDogit]

I didn't say that schons are the best cues out there. What I said was that if you find a "good" schon - you'll be hard pressed to find something that plays better. If you disagree with this, then you haven't played with a "good" schon before.

I never said the herceks or scruggs hit bad - what I said is that if you find a good players, it won't be outclassed. If you find a good players, it'll hit as good as a good house cue. Don't believe me? fine

When I read your first post, my initial reaction was that this might be a good platform for debate. Then, after reading this post, I'm beginning to wonder if pool might be the right game for you because if you can honestly sit there and tell me that A) Schons are the best cues out there; and that B) Stealths and Players play better than Hercek Scruggs, than I can confidently sit back here and say that you know too little about the game to make an accurate assesment and, maybe you should stick to darts or ping-pong or something.

But thank you for stopping by.

 

[Egg McDogit]

ok I apologize for doing that. I didn't want to kill an open debate, but I did get out of line. I'm kind of sensitive on this subject - it's kind of a pet peeve of mine. Your personal preference is yours only.

I never challenged you. I live in TX. You are only a few thousand miles away, so it would be pretty gay for me to do that.....

Obviously you have a cue that plays good for you. Please don't dispute the opinions of those people that have posted in this thread when you asked for them in the first place. I know what plays well for me and what I will spend my money on. It may be different than what you would, but doesn't make it wrong.

It's kind of hard to discredit a personal preference, isn't it? You can keep trying though if it makes you feel any better.

 

[Cornerman]

try reading the post. I said I'll play you with a PHENOLIC TIPPED BREAK CUE

Why ask for a gaff spot? Phenolic tip break cue vs. the 6 out? How does that address your post?

I really don't understand any of your post. You're asking, but you're not weighing the answers.

After playing the game and owning several production cues, many people will want to get a cue made exactly what they want. It might be materials. It might be weights and balance. But, the bottom line is that they get what they want to get. Everyone who buys a custom cue has their own legitimate reasoning. That should be enough.


Fred

 

[Icon of Sin]

Why is it so hard for people to understand this concept? A $5000 cue isn't going to make me a better player. I am the only one who can make me a better player.

If you are going from a production cue that is a couple hundred dollars to a 5000 dollar cue I could agree with you.

If you are going from a production cue that is 60 dollars to a cue that is 1000+ Im going to have to disagree with you.