Why does PooL die in the Summer??

Sharkeyes

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Its that time again and I know the slow season will be here soon. What I don't understand is why the pool scene dies in the summer?? I've heard several reasons but mostly:

good weather and people would rather go outside and do other things.

-I know that many pool players out there are the recreational type and quite a few of them are golf players as well.
-I know that pool doesn't have quite the following as some other sports like basketball and football (which people play all year round. Even when its not the season, there's still a lot of people playing).
-I also know that pool's reputation isn't the best and most younger people out there have not been exposed to the world of billiards as much as they were to other sports when they were younger. A majority of parents discourage billiards in the lives of younger kids (due to drugs, gambling, violence, etc.)

Here's what I don't understand...

Why does the scene slow down a lot in the summer?? Its an indoor sport which can be played year round. If people are willing to build indoor basketball courts and stadiums then why isn't the pool community willing to stay inside a pool hall as much as they were in the winter? Summer is also when a lot of younger people have more free time than most of the year.

Take a look at bowling. Its an indoor sport and in many cases pool and bowling do go hand in hand. What I see is: bowling does pretty well all year round. The amount of recreational bowlers (from my observation) is pretty consistent from Jan. to Dec. Why not the same for pool?

Let's knock our heads around a little and try to cook up some suggestions on how we can revolutionize this whole sport and get more people involved. The more involvement, the more money that can be spent for the players and enthusiasts. Let me know you ideas!
 
Another perspective

I respectfully disagree that the bowling scene is consistant. I fully admit I am not a regular bowler but have several friends that bowl league. They always speak of how empty summer leagues are. Maybe that is unique to St Louis but it seems common sense to me. All your reasons for pool being slow are correct. Add to it that students (a big % of pool players) are either on vacation with parents or friends...they also want to do summer activities on the water, beach etc. Golf courses open. Baseball season is in full swing. Add to it that more yardwork and household repairs take time and money away from your weekly allotment of each. Summer is the movie blockbuster season also. Movie theatres are a competitor many do not think about. It is entertainment just like pool to many people. My slowest weekend in the past 5 years was the weekend that Spiderman 2 came out. I don't think it is one or two or ten reasons, but a total of 100 reasons. They just all add up. We have had a pool room for 40 years. Never had a summer season I was thrilled with. I have just had to accept it. sigh...
 
I respectfully disagree about other indoor sports (hmmm, is pool a sport or a game, no not that argument again). Hockey rinks don't go out of business in the summer, but they see less business and everybody knows hockey players are nuts anyway :D. Basketball virtually dies indoors in the summer (except for the WNBA, lol, what a bore). There is still a healthy amount of basketball played, but it's played on asphalt or concrete courts outdoors. When I used to play indoor soccer, the league turnout got prety dismal in the good weather. Some good weather sports go indoors in the winter, but their indoor equivalent really isn't the same sport.
I play league year round, but I have no life :( so what do you expect. :D
 
Sharkeyes said:
Its that time again and I know the slow season will be here soon. What I don't understand is why the pool scene dies in the summer?? I've heard several reasons but mostly:

good weather and people would rather go outside and do other things.

-I know that many pool players out there are the recreational type and quite a few of them are golf players as well.
-I know that pool doesn't have quite the following as some other sports like basketball and football (which people play all year round. Even when its not the season, there's still a lot of people playing).
-I also know that pool's reputation isn't the best and most younger people out there have not been exposed to the world of billiards as much as they were to other sports when they were younger. A majority of parents discourage billiards in the lives of younger kids (due to drugs, gambling, violence, etc.)

Here's what I don't understand...

Why does the scene slow down a lot in the summer?? Its an indoor sport which can be played year round. If people are willing to build indoor basketball courts and stadiums then why isn't the pool community willing to stay inside a pool hall as much as they were in the winter? Summer is also when a lot of younger people have more free time than most of the year.

Take a look at bowling. Its an indoor sport and in many cases pool and bowling do go hand in hand. What I see is: bowling does pretty well all year round. The amount of recreational bowlers (from my observation) is pretty consistent from Jan. to Dec. Why not the same for pool?

Let's knock our heads around a little and try to cook up some suggestions on how we can revolutionize this whole sport and get more people involved. The more involvement, the more money that can be spent for the players and enthusiasts. Let me know you ideas!


BIKINIS. That's the problem. I tend to slow down pool playing in the summer I notice aswell. Because of women, bikini's, and an offer to tag along somewhere. That's the problem
 
The sun doesn't set early enough so by the time the pool bug hits, it's too late.

Hey, CueandCushion...have you tried advertising at the movie theatre near you...hell, the other day at a movie (V) we had to sit through about 10-12 minutes of ads. I think an advertisment to suggest going to the pool hall after the movie would be money well spent.

Jeff Livingston
 
I live in Michigan. I don't understand people waitng all winter long for the good weather to come and then sit inside in air conditioning because it is too hot outside.

When I was playing on the Moose league many members would complain that the league was too long and could not wait for it to end. I think the real pool players will play all year long. I play to keep sharp and because I like the game. It really helps when the leagues start because everyone else is rusty and I get a big jump in the win column.

Some of the problems may also be with the warm weather there are also other things to do such as projects around the house that could not be done in the winter time and they have to be done. TV ratings also drop in the summer time. That is why it is not considered prime time and only reruns are shown.
 
TheBook said:
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When I was playing on the Moose league many members would complain that the league was too long and could not wait for it to end. I think the real pool players will play all year long. (snip).


Good point about the length of leagues. I know the ops want to make the most money, but playing into June on a "winter" league isn't a good thing, imho. If the leagues started just a little later and finished earlier (say, end of April) then players might actually want to play in a summer league, too, as they've had time to do stuff around the house, etc. But when the "winter" league goes into the hot weather, I get burned out and just want to get away from the game for a while, so I tend to not play as much in the summer.

I'm playing in a short, 2-man league this summer. It runs about 5 or 6 weeks only, during the air-conditioning season. That's because this year our "winter" league is finishing a month earlier than last year. ;)

Jeff Livingston
 
What's Summer?

Don't you have to go outside for that?

There's no lack of pool around here during the summer, there are weekly tournaments just about every day of the week. I believe the CPA(APA up here) runs a summer league and we have a new league starting up in 2 weeks sanctioned by the Canadian Cue Sports Association.

If a person wants to play pool in the summer around here there are more than enough opportunities.
 
I still play in the summer but not as much. My summer activities are golf and sitting my lazy butt down at the lake and drinking beer. Remember I am in Maine so the summers are kinda short, gotta get out in the sun as much as I can.
 
I know that in my APA league here in Colorado (which itself is a huge outdoor playground area), there are a few teams who "take the summer off". Right now we've got 13 teams in our Thursday night league - come summer I expect that to drop to 7 or 8, 'til fall.
 
Hey angelo, you know ill be playing over the summer. Drive down to gainesville then! You know frank has the tournament in june or whenever, so im sure he will be playing. Our good exchange students are going home for the summer. But me and kevin will be playing alot im sure. Im always ready to play!
 
Those are quite a few good reasons. I still think there HAS to be a way for the the industry to pick up business in the summer though. From what I've observed, the big pool crowd is at night when golf and other outdoor activities are already out of the way. Someone else here pointed out that a lot of people wish for warm weather but then when it comes, they want to sit inside all day in the A/C. Well why don't they come to a pool hall in our nice A/C environment, sip on some booze and shoot some stick?

The reason why I brought up basketball and football is because, those are two activities that have solved ways of keeping people ACTIVELY involved in the sport all year round. There has GOT to be a way to get pool players more involved as well.
 
:mad: I wish our pool hall had a nice a/c enviroment, it gets really hot and fingers gets sweaty eww I hate that feeling, because the owner is to cheap to run the a/c.
 
I personally don't like playing during the daytime when it's nice weather outside (> 60 or so). I'm holed up in a cubicle all week so when the weekend comes, I feel a need to enjoy the outdoors. Then again I don't smoke so I have a hard time being in pool halls too much anyways. Just my thoughts as I
'm sure others are in the same boat...
 
Do You Really Want To Know Why?

Check out the " I was going to post a few pool pictures post.
THAT'S WHY!!!!!!!!
Purd:D
 
Just offer to pay more

Scottlucasi19 said:
:mad: I wish our pool hall had a nice a/c enviroment, it gets really hot and fingers gets sweaty eww I hate that feeling, because the owner is to cheap to run the a/c.

My electric goes up over $3000 a month in the summer. Even then my 3 commercial units cannot always keep up with demand. I would tell the owner to crank it up and you would GLADLY pay another $1.00 an hour for pool. He would almost break even that way. Give it a shot!
 
Thank you Jeff

chefjeff said:
The sun doesn't set early enough so by the time the pool bug hits, it's too late.

Hey, CueandCushion...have you tried advertising at the movie theatre near you...hell, the other day at a movie (V) we had to sit through about 10-12 minutes of ads. I think an advertisment to suggest going to the pool hall after the movie would be money well spent.

Jeff Livingston
I have just recently looked into that as a promotion. Having people bring their ticket stubs after the movie for free pool. I do think that is a good idea. Hope others think so too. Craig.
 
Scottlucasi19 said:
:mad: I wish our pool hall had a nice a/c enviroment, it gets really hot and fingers gets sweaty eww I hate that feeling, because the owner is to cheap to run the a/c.

Sometimes, there's no way to avoid the humidity. In the summer at Chris's in Chicago, on hot Sunday nights during the 9 ball tournament, with 30 or more players in the back room, the AC can't really keep up. The humidity is thick. The sweat runneth freely. The chalk gets sticky. Sticks crab on moist skin.

The solution? A glove...

Flex
 
cueandcushion said:
My electric goes up over $3000 a month in the summer. Even then my 3 commercial units cannot always keep up with demand. I would tell the owner to crank it up and you would GLADLY pay another $1.00 an hour for pool. He would almost break even that way. Give it a shot!
$3000 a month? are you growing pot or something?
 
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