Why Is It?

[ChrisinNC]

Why is it that when playing / practicing 14.1 on a Diamond 7-footer, no matter how much velocity you impart on your break shot, with top, bottom, stun or whatever, nearly all the balls still seem to remain at the foot end of the table? This makes it so much harder to get a multiple rack 14.1 high run on a 7’ table.

The only exception is the under-the-stack break shot, but there’s just not much room under the stack on a 7’ table, so setting up these break shots is relatively rare.

I assume the reason is, the balls rebound off all 3 closely surrounding rails and just run back in to each other? Anyone find any way to avoid this happening and achieve a better spread of the balls from a 14.1 break shot on a 7’ table?

 

[TheBasics]

ChrisinNC, Howdy;

... try less velocity?

hank

 

[ChrisinNC]

ChrisinNC, Howdy;

... try less velocity?

hank

Wouldn’t seem to make sense, but worth a try! I’ll report back soon!

 

[Cameron Smith]

I wonder if it has to do with where you are hitting the stack and the angle of the cue ball into the stack? I’m finding that sometimes a medium but accurate cue ball speed gets better production off the break than slamming it as hard as I can. I’m wondering if the speed change impacts how and where it contacts the pack.

 

[TheBasics]

Wouldn’t seem to make sense, but worth a try! I’ll report back soon!

ChrisinNC, Howdy;

Excess energy into the pack sends the balls to the rails then back into
the stack area = congestion. Less energy into the pack and the balls can
not rebound as far = less congestion. In theory at least. chucklin'

hank

 

[ChrisinNC]

ChrisinNC, Howdy;

Excess energy into the pack sends the balls to the rails then back into
the stack area = congestion. Less energy into the pack and the balls can
not rebound as far = less congestion. In theory at least. chucklin'

hank

I experimented some with a softer break last night. It didn’t result in more balls down table, but it did manage to break them up about the same, and allowed me to have more cue ball control.

It does seem to me that for a standard side of the stack break shot, the best option for the cue ball is to draw it all the way down to the head rail and then back up towards the middle of the table. Yes, you risk scratching it straight in to one of the head-end corner pockets, but when you leave the cue ball down on the foot (racking) end of the table, there’s just too much chance in all that congestion of getting too close to or locked up on another ball to have a shot.

 

[TheBasics]

I experimented some with a softer break last night. It didn’t result in more balls down table, but it did manage to break them up about the same, and allowed me to have more cue ball control.

It does seem to me that for a standard side of the stack break shot, the best option for the cue ball is to draw it all the way down to the head rail and then back up towards the middle of the table. Yes, you risk scratching it straight in to one of the head-end corner pockets, but when you leave the cue ball down on the foot (racking) end of the table, there’s just too much chance in all that congestion of getting too close to or locked up on another ball to have a shot.

ChrisinNC, Howdy;

CB control is the name of the game. You truly don't want to send balls up-table. You want to keep them in the half a table between the side pockets and the foot rail. Yes, very crowded on a Bar Box. Try just busting a few out, work them and bust a few more out. Almost like when you watch the folks from the 40's,50's, and 60's. This is a game of short shots and extream/really good control of the cue ball. Don't get frustrated, just take baby-steps. 1 ball at a time. As long as you are practicing put it back and try until you get the shot, then shoot it a few more times. It may still be alive. chuckle.

hank