Why not select a Moori tip???

Bob 14:1

Bob 14:1

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After quite some time researching the forum's all too ubiquitous tip threads, I noticed a frequent commonality. Many long for the return of the "old" Moori tips. Just as frequently, the same poster will usually add that the newer Moori tips are "junk, crapola, etc.", and with no further clarification of their opinion.

If you've personally used one of the newer Moori tips, can you please elaborated on why you feel they are a poor choice? This has nothing to do with the "fake" v. "real" idea, because the image and copy below come from our sponsor Seyberts.

I ask, because I have to order a replacement shaft from Schmelke, and their tip choices are somewhat limited. Aside from Kamui black and Everest, they do also offer the Moori tip.

Thanks for your input!!! :D

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Moori tips are a 8 layered pigskin leather tip. These tips are 14mm and come in 3 different hardness. Moori tips will come in factory sealed bubble pack.

Price is for 1 tip
PRICE: $25.00 $10.95

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SPECIFICATIONS
Product ID: MOORI
Layered / Non Layered: Layered Tip
Leather Type: Pig Skin
Size: 14mm
Tip Backing: Non Backed
Tip Hardness: Multiple Hardness
Tip Type: Play Tip

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Interested in this as well. Pulled out an old Viking Cue with a Moori Medium I had installed back in the day and have to admit, loved the crispness of the hit it had. I have a G2 hard waiting to be installed on one of my player shafts and thinking of putting a new Moori medium on the other. Is it because of delamination, different materials used, glue or just not the same hit?
 
I put a new Moori medium on about 2 months ago and I was instantly impressed with how well it played; great action, and the feel was awesome. The previous tip I had on it was a Kamui black (which played well but wore down too quickly) and before that was an Everest (which went from OK to hard crap pretty much instantly). So when I got the Moori it really was everything I'd been searching for in a tip...until it started to mushroom. Using a universal tool I could get the mushroom out of it and restore a little bit of it's life, but within an hour or so of playing, it's back to a mushroom. Right now I'm waiting on a G2 to arrive to see how that one will play, otherwise I don't know what tip I'd switch to aside from a Kamui, because honestly I'm disappointed and a little gun-shy with the new (mushroom) mooris.
 
I currently use a Moori soft and I really like it. Feels similar to a Kamui SS to me. Not planning on changing this one, at least not for a while.
 
I have a franklin southwest with a moori tip on the shaft i play with(cut down about halfway) joe blackburn trimmed it to this thickness and said he thought it was an older moori. I can,t be sure but it definately is the best playing tip i have ever used. I have tried kamuii , wizards, and talismans(only tip richard harris put on his cues) and they were all "fine" but the moori on my southwest outplays them by far. I don,t play but about 4 hours a week and this tip has not worn down and has kept its shape perfectly for about 2 years. I really wish i knew with absolute certainty if it is an old moori or one of the newer ones. Best tip ive ever had period.
 
Not that anyone really cares, :banghead: but here's why I'm asking.

I've got a $500 Schon with a 314/2 hanging on the end.

I bought a Schmelke Cocobola sneaky last year just to have around if someone wanted to play. I'd never even shot with it 'til yesterday.

I put a white on black linen on it and a wood to wood joint and what Schmelke called a "Moori Medium".

Holy cow! It was like taking off brand new shoes that were hurting, and putting on your old broken in loafers. The 13mm. with a Moori medium, and the plain maple shaft just seemed soooo natural.

I Immediately saw a real improvement in my straight game. Since October, I've kept track of all the 14.1 racks that I'd run. I just mark 'em on my beads. Embarrassingly enough, only a total of 4 runouts.

I shot this morning with the Schmelke, and ran out 2 out of 10. Of course I didn't have S%^$ for a break shot, but I was totally astounded.

I'm also amazed at how well I like a 13mm shaft. My Schon/314/2 has < 12.50. The Schmelke 13mm solid maple just seems so natural. Maybe it's because I have a fairly large hand, but my hand is "skinny".

Now I know what a guy means when they say they love the way their cue plays.

Thanks for your good and bad affirmation on the Moori. Being just one year old, I'm pretty sure my Moori Medium must be from the newer configuration.

As an aside, don't overlook a Schmelke. I can place the butts side by side, and for the life of me cannot see how the Schon is a waaaaay better cue with finer fit and finish. Only paid $165 delivered for the Schmelke. I really like the wood to wood joint with the Moori, and it's for all the world, just a house cue. Only thing that gives it away is the linen. Wood butts seem to get sticky for me when I want to adjust my grip. I've been using a Kamui Clear Black medium. I'm surprised how much longer my measles balls goes without nasty black scuff marks. I just roll it against the cushion and it's good to go.

Not to hijack my own thread, but anybody got any input on the standard Schmelke shaft v. their laminated. I suspect the laminated will shoot more "sharply". I'm also toying with trying a 13.5mm on the next shaft. Any opinions on such a fat shaft. I figure for a hundred bucks, what can it hurt, since only bumping up to 13mm has made me feel so much, much more comfortable as I shoot?
 
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Bob 14:1 said:
Not that anyone really cares, :banghead: but here's why I'm asking.

I've got a $500 Schon with a 314/2 hanging on the end.

I bought a Schmelke Cocobola sneaky last year just to have around if someone wanted to play. I'd never even shot with it 'til yesterday.

I put a white on black linen on it and a wood to wood joint and what Schmelke called a "Moori Medium".

Holy cow! It was like taking off brand new shoes that were hurting, and putting on your old broken in loafers. The 13mm. with a Moori medium, and the plain maple shaft just seemed soooo natural.

I Immediately saw a real improvement in my straight game. Since October, I've kept track of all the 14.1 racks that I'd run. I just mark 'em on my beads. Embarrassingly enough, only a total of 4 runouts.

I shot this morning with the Schmelke, and ran out 2 out of 10. Of course I didn't have S%^$ for a break shot, but I was totally astounded.

I'm also amazed at how well I like a 13mm shaft. My Schon/314/2 has < 12.50. The Schmelke 13mm solid maple just seems so natural. Maybe it's because I have a fairly large hand, but my hand is "skinny".

Now I know what a guy means when they say they love the way their cue plays.

Thanks for your good and bad affirmation on the Moori. Being just one year old, I'm pretty sure my Moori Medium must be from the newer configuration.

As an aside, don't overlook a Schmelke. I can place the butts side by side, and for the life of me cannot see how the Schon is a waaaaay better cue with finer fit and finish. Only paid $165 delivered for the Schmelke. I really like the wood to wood joint with the Moori, and it's for all the world, just a house cue. Only thing that gives it away is the linen. Wood butts seem to get sticky for me when I want to adjust my grip. I've been using a Kamui Clear Black medium. I'm surprised how much longer my measles balls goes without nasty black scuff marks. I just roll it against the cushion and it's good to go.

Not to hijack my own thread, but anybody got any input on the standard Schmelke shaft v. their laminated. I suspect the laminated will shoot more "sharply". I'm also toying with trying a 13.5mm on the next shaft. Any opinions on such a fat shaft. I figure for a hundred bucks, what can it hurt, since only bumping up to 13mm has made me feel so much, much more comfortable as I shoot?
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Bob... I am going to jump in again because your second post is identical to my situation. My player is also a 314/2 with a Kamui SS sitting on a McD.... I whipped out the Viking that has a maple shaft with a Moori Medium just for fun and needless to say my player has stayed in the case for a while. Not sure if it is the shaft, tip or both... Can't explain it.
 
Bob 14:1 said:
Not that anyone really cares, :banghead: but here's why I'm asking.

I've got a $500 Schon with a 314/2 hanging on the end.

I bought a Schmelke Cocobola sneaky last year just to have around if someone wanted to play. I'd never even shot with it 'til yesterday.

I put a white on black linen on it and a wood to wood joint and what Schmelke called a "Moori Medium".

Holy cow! It was like taking off brand new shoes that were hurting, and putting on your old broken in loafers. The 13mm. with a Moori medium, and the plain maple shaft just seemed soooo natural.

I Immediately saw a real improvement in my straight game. Since October, I've kept track of all the 14.1 racks that I'd run. I just mark 'em on my beads. Embarrassingly enough, only a total of 4 runouts.

I shot this morning with the Schmelke, and ran out 2 out of 10. Of course I didn't have S%^$ for a break shot, but I was totally astounded.

I'm also amazed at how well I like a 13mm shaft. My Schon/314/2 has < 12.50. The Schmelke 13mm solid maple just seems so natural. Maybe it's because I have a fairly large hand, but my hand is "skinny".

Now I know what a guy means when they say they love the way their cue plays.

Thanks for your good and bad affirmation on the Moori. Being just one year old, I'm pretty sure my Moori Medium must be from the newer configuration.

As an aside, don't overlook a Schmelke. I can place the butts side by side, and for the life of me cannot see how the Schon is a waaaaay better cue with finer fit and finish. Only paid $165 delivered for the Schmelke. I really like the wood to wood joint with the Moori, and it's for all the world, just a house cue. Only thing that gives it away is the linen. Wood butts seem to get sticky for me when I want to adjust my grip. I've been using a Kamui Clear Black medium. I'm surprised how much longer my measles balls goes without nasty black scuff marks. I just roll it against the cushion and it's good to go.

Not to hijack my own thread, but anybody got any input on the standard Schmelke shaft v. their laminated. I suspect the laminated will shoot more "sharply". I'm also toying with trying a 13.5mm on the next shaft. Any opinions on such a fat shaft. I figure for a hundred bucks, what can it hurt, since only bumping up to 13mm has made me feel so much, much more comfortable as I shoot?
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If you like the Schmelke config so much, why change it?
 
paulempor said:
Bob... I am going to jump in again because your second post is identical to my situation. My player is also a 314/2 with a Kamui SS sitting on a McD.... I whipped out the Viking that has a maple shaft with a Moori Medium just for fun and needless to say my player has stayed in the case for a while. Not sure if it is the shaft, tip or both... Can't explain it.
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That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! It just feels right. Great minds must think alike. I'm significantly trying to analyze whether it's the tip, the larger diameter shaft, or both. All I can say is that I shoot so much better with a basic, mundane Schmelke than with all the hi falutin gadgetry. :shrug:
 
Bob 14:1 said:
Not that anyone really cares, :banghead: but here's why I'm asking.

I've got a $500 Schon with a 314/2 hanging on the end.

I bought a Schmelke Cocobola sneaky last year just to have around if someone wanted to play. I'd never even shot with it 'til yesterday.

I put a white on black linen on it and a wood to wood joint and what Schmelke called a "Moori Medium".

Holy cow! It was like taking off brand new shoes that were hurting, and putting on your old broken in loafers. The 13mm. with a Moori medium, and the plain maple shaft just seemed soooo natural.

I Immediately saw a real improvement in my straight game. Since October, I've kept track of all the 14.1 racks that I'd run. I just mark 'em on my beads. Embarrassingly enough, only a total of 4 runouts.

I shot this morning with the Schmelke, and ran out 2 out of 10. Of course I didn't have S%^$ for a break shot, but I was totally astounded.

I'm also amazed at how well I like a 13mm shaft. My Schon/314/2 has < 12.50. The Schmelke 13mm solid maple just seems so natural. Maybe it's because I have a fairly large hand, but my hand is "skinny".

Now I know what a guy means when they say they love the way their cue plays.

Thanks for your good and bad affirmation on the Moori. Being just one year old, I'm pretty sure my Moori Medium must be from the newer configuration.

As an aside, don't overlook a Schmelke. I can place the butts side by side, and for the life of me cannot see how the Schon is a waaaaay better cue with finer fit and finish. Only paid $165 delivered for the Schmelke. I really like the wood to wood joint with the Moori, and it's for all the world, just a house cue. Only thing that gives it away is the linen. Wood butts seem to get sticky for me when I want to adjust my grip. I've been using a Kamui Clear Black medium. I'm surprised how much longer my measles balls goes without nasty black scuff marks. I just roll it against the cushion and it's good to go.

Not to hijack my own thread, but anybody got any input on the standard Schmelke shaft v. their laminated. I suspect the laminated will shoot more "sharply". I'm also toying with trying a 13.5mm on the next shaft. Any opinions on such a fat shaft. I figure for a hundred bucks, what can it hurt, since only bumping up to 13mm has made me feel so much, much more comfortable as I shoot?
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I'll give you $100 cash money for the Schon that is obviously a problem.

(Thank you for the tip to the public in general.)
 
KCRack'em said:
If you like the Schmelke config so much, why change it?
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I'm contemplating ordering a replacement Schmelke shaft in either 13.25 or 13.50.

Does anyone have any feedback on the standard Schmelke shaft v. their laminated?
 
Its all BS in my opinion. Same as the people who say the 314-1 is gold and the 314-2 is junk. It basically comes down to "its great because we can't get it anymore".

:grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:
 
SARDiver said:
I'll give you $100 cash money for the Schon that is obviously a problem.

(Thank you for the tip to the public in general.)
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I know, I know, it sounds crazy. I wanted good equipment; hence Schon and Predator.

Right now, 3 bills would do it. My father always said, "When it's right, you'll know it." Guess I finally found what I've been searching for. Either that, or the planets are in perfect alignment today...
 
Mooris are fine, but tend to mushroom more than the other big brands.
The new Moori Jewel mushrooms less, but is a tad bit too hard for me.
I`m waiting for some Moori Ruby tips, maybe those have the Morri feeling without mushrooming so much.
 
Bob 14:1 said:
After quite some time researching the forum's all too ubiquitous tip threads, I noticed a frequent commonality. Many long for the return of the "old" Moori tips. Just as frequently, the same poster will usually add that the newer Moori tips are "junk, crapola, etc.", and with no further clarification of their opinion.

If you've personally used one of the newer Moori tips, can you please elaborated on why you feel they are a poor choice? This has nothing to do with the "fake" v. "real" idea, because the image and copy below come from our sponsor Seyberts.

I ask, because I have to order a replacement shaft from Schmelke, and their tip choices are somewhat limited. Aside from Kamui black and Everest, they do also offer the Moori tip.

Thanks for your input!!! :D

_______________________________________________________________________


Moori tips are a 8 layered pigskin leather tip. These tips are 14mm and come in 3 different hardness. Moori tips will come in factory sealed bubble pack.

Price is for 1 tip
PRICE: $25.00 $10.95

0 review(s)
SPECIFICATIONS
Product ID: MOORI
Layered / Non Layered: Layered Tip
Leather Type: Pig Skin
Size: 14mm
Tip Backing: Non Backed
Tip Hardness: Multiple Hardness
Tip Type: Play Tip

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I loved the original Mooris and stuck with them for a long time.

But, after a time, what I experienced was that the quality of the tips changed and they would often dry out and delaminate. (One forum wag suggested that the little old Japanese ladies weren't chewing the whale blubber Moori used for glue long enough for the newer editions.)

And so I switched, first to Kamuis black, SS, and then G2 mediums, which, I thought, were pretty good. Earlier this year I took my travel Gina to Ernie for two new shafts and to have the original two shafts re-tipped. I asked him what he was using and he said, "Original Mooris." And I asked him how, all these years removed, he could offer that. And he said, "When they came out I liked them so much I bought a thousand of them."

They do play swell :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Bob 14:1 said:
I know, I know, it sounds crazy. I wanted good equipment; hence Schon and Predator.

Right now, 3 bills would do it. My father always said, "When it's right, you'll know it." Guess I finally found what I've been searching for. Either that, or the planets are in perfect alignment today...
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PM sent, sir (a couple, actually).

Thanks.
 
Here's the story I heard- there was a big tsunami in Japan about 10 years ago and it wiped out a lot of the pig farms that were used to make the old moori tips. Moori couldn't just stop making tips so they must have switched to an inferior quality leather while the farms recovered. Fast forward to present day- in my opinion Moori tips are back to the same level of quality they used to have. I too got away from them and went with other brands but recently I had a new Moori medium put on and it feels exactly like the old ones.

I'm not sure if it's all in my head or not but I think they got their hands on a batch of good leather finally.
 
zpele said:
Here's the story I heard- there was a big tsunami in Japan about 10 years ago and it wiped out a lot of the pig farms that were used to make the old moori tips. Moori couldn't just stop making tips so they must have switched to an inferior quality leather while the farms recovered. Fast forward to present day- in my opinion Moori tips are back to the same level of quality they used to have. I too got away from them and went with other brands but recently I had a new Moori medium put on and it feels exactly like the old ones.

I'm not sure if it's all in my head or not but I think they got their hands on a batch of good leather finally.
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iusedtoberich said:
Its all BS in my opinion. Same as the people who say the 314-1 is gold and the 314-2 is junk. It basically comes down to "its great because we can't get it anymore".

:grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:
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I guess it's like anything else; just one opinion v another. Publicly most still do a hatchet job on Moori tips, but my PM inbox is loaded with those telling me that they're terrific. And hats off to those who took the time out of their day to PM me!! :thumbup:

I'm reminded of the 1970's when we visited Las Vegas. The package stores would sell me an already wrapped 12 pack of Coors beer; complete with a carrying handle to take back on the plane. Today I'm in Broomfield, Colorado, and I can get it literally 500 feet from my home. I wouldn't walk across the street for Coors today. People are, myself included, strange animals after all....:grin:
 
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