Why Southwest?

MasterClass

MasterClass

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Can anyone tell me why does southwest command such a high value in the secondary market?

Its a good playing cue that i agree, but really not that much better than a full splice titlist i feel.

I got one today. play with it. I conclude that i like my titlist better.

Is it because a lot of the top players are using southwest?

Anyone looking for a southwest? Or have a good titlist to trade? Maybe i should give it another chance? Dunno.

Does southwest cue have adjustable weight bolts?

Best regards
Chris.
 
Last edited:
MasterClass said:
Can anyone tell me why does southwest command such a high value in the secondary market?

Its a good playing cue that i agree, but really not that much better than a full splice titlist i feel.

I got one today. play with it. I conclude that i like my titlist better.

Is it because a lot of the top players are using southwest?

Anyone looking for a southwest? Or a good titlist to trade? Maybe i should give it another chance? Dunno.

Does southwest cue have adjustable weight bolts?

Best regards
Chris.
Click to expand...
I've owned a couple of South West cues and I sold them because I wanted to try something else with a predator shaft. I wasn't that impressed with the way my South West cues played, but others are very impressed with them so it's up to the individual whether they like them or not.

The weight bolts in a South West cue are epoxied in and cannot be changed easily or at all.

When you look at these pictures I know that you'll agree with me that I made a big mistake selling my 2 cues!!!!!!!! They would be worth much more now than what I sold them for, but I had no idea they would go up in value like they've done in the last couple of years.

dsc00838kj6.jpg

dsc00712ht1.jpg
 
a couple of reasons readily come to mind.....

1. Supply and demand. Even though they usually made a couple hundred cues per year, the demand is still very high. This is especially true when you factor in the overseas demand for these for playing cues. The growth of pool in the orient is exploding, not like here in the states.

2. The long wait. We are a 'want this minute' society. When you want something immediately that's in high demand and they tell you the wait for a new one will be 10 years, then you'll always have this situation.

3. They don't discount cues to dealers. Because of this, a dealer has to pay a premium (at least full retail) to get into a cue like anybody else.
 
Last edited:
nice 9 pointer>>>>>>WOW..... and i thought mine was awesome...wood combo like your bottom one only it's a 9'er with galcano recut into the ebony points..

I think supply and demand really.... you gotta have what you can't ... hence the 8 year list... it's an envy thing LOL.....
i am a Southwest fan..... i like the hit and know that i can pick up one, then the next and still play without major adjustment... they are a consistent hitting cue... i know one plays different than the next but in general they are consistent... and stiff... I also like the ringwork.... if they didn;t have that ringwork, i may not be such a fan... i'm a sucker for ringwork LOL and i got ENVY too ....LOL......
I own 4 now <had 5- just sold an early franklin to RunScott...>
 
CueJunkiee said:
nice 9 pointer>>>>>>WOW..... and i thought mine was awesome...wood combo like your bottom one only it's a 9'er with galcano recut into the ebony points..

I think supply and demand really.... you gotta have what you can't ... hence the 8 year list... it's an envy thing LOL.....
i am a Southwest fan..... i like the hit and know that i can pick up one, then the next and still play without major adjustment... they are a consistent hitting cue... i know one plays different than the next but in general they are consistent... and stiff... I also like the ringwork.... if they didn;t have that ringwork, i may not be such a fan... i'm a sucker for ringwork LOL and i got ENVY too ....LOL......
I own 4 now <had 5- just sold an early franklin to RunScott...>
Click to expand...
The second South West cue pictured in my earlier post came with shafts that had what South West cues calls their Super Pro Taper and the hit was so springy with those shafts that it didn't feel at all like a South West firm hit to me. The cue looked so good that I was ready to call Laurie and order 2 new shafts for it until I found out that you have to wait quite a while even to buy shafts for a cue that you already own. It was easier to sell the cue and move on to something else, but I do regret that I did that now. I just took leave of my senses when I sold the cocobola South West in the first picture because there wasn't anything wrong with it other than I wanted to buy an 8 point Mottey cue and something had to go which was another regretful move on my part.
 
MasterClass said:
Can anyone tell me why does southwest command such a high value in the secondary market?

Its a good playing cue that i agree, but really not that much better than a full splice titlist i feel.

I got one today. play with it. I conclude that i like my titlist better.

Is it because a lot of the top players are using southwest?

Anyone looking for a southwest? Or a good titlist to trade? Maybe i should give it another chance? Dunno.

Does southwest cue have adjustable weight bolts?

Best regards
Chris.
Click to expand...

Chris, email me photos and specs of your SW cue. I have a bunch of Titlists for potential trade.
 
James,

Your Coco/Ebony SW is one of my all time favorites. Thanks for passing on info about the shafts, too. I'm sure that will come in handy for those wanting to buy a SW then intending to replace the shafts.

You probably weren't as crazy as you thought in getting rid of it, either. After all, you were looking for a great looking PLAYING cue, and the SW just wasn't it.

Now if you want to talk momentary lapse of judgement, we can talk about you selling THE nicest James White cue I have ever laid eyes on... !!!

:) :p :D
 
I love my South West. The cue feels like an extension of my arm. I agree with CueJunkiee about the consistency of the hit. Most don't hit exactly alike
(due to different woods) but they hit so close that I can borrow a friends South West and still play good with it.

I will admit that I didn't like it very much at first but that was when it was brand new and the shafts were huge with hard Triangle tips. Once I took the shafts down to about 12mm my cue hit like a monster.

Just my 2 cents.....

-Andy
 
greeneyes_ocean said:
how much are you asking for your titlist?

Can you send some pictures?

Vass@anchornyc.com

Thank you
Click to expand...
Haha I understand your question now! My bad. Misleading statement.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I corrected my earlier post. I do not have a titlist for trade. I have a southwest. Looking for a titlist.

Highly figured Birdseye maple forearm 6 point ebony red black veneers and red black rings all across the butt. Ebony butt sleeves and birds eye maple .

Geez its 5am already? I will post up some pics later.

Best regards
Chris
 
I have the rarest Brunswick blank converted-4 crossed butterflies with 3 veneers + give you some cash
Interested?
Vass
 
I dun really like butterflies.

I like traditional looking cues.

4 point 4veneers, minimal inlays, if custom cues 5 veneer would be nice. Maybe a scruggs or a bender or a mottey or a white. I am pretty sure tas is out of reach. I am not even going to think about szamboti. crave, drool, wish maybe for now.

Simple delrin butt cap like balabuska makes, flat face steel or ivory joint. I am sure i seen alot out there in the past of such cue. And with wrap! I feel naked with a cue without it.

Any suggestion on what value should i be trading for? Is $2100-$2300 too much? Higher, lower?

Btw is black and red a popular color?
 
Last edited:
The hit of the new SW is not very consistent but the franklin era cue all play amazing. I had owned several newer SW (2002 and 2005) that I've sold because the cues were not straight. One of them had a slight roll in the middle of the cue and the other had a roll in the forearm.

Most of the SW cues that I come accross has a wobble in them..and everybody tell me its the european taper or compound taper is what causes the roll. It really hard to find a SW that is straight....and a lot guys sell and advertise that it's straight when it really not. I'm maybe picking up a 9 pointer soon and I hope it will be straight and play good. It the hotest stick in Taiwan right now, I think over 50% of the Pro player play with SW cues.

Duc.
 
southwest is the cue that is used in the movie Poolhall Junkies, so maybe its demand grew a little through that as well
 
sc cues that top cue didn't happen to get sold to a young man from Salt Lake named Damien did it. I saw him with pretty much that exact cue at a tournament last weekend


Jake
 
Cuemaster98 said:
The hit of the new SW is not very consistent but the franklin era cue all play amazing. I had owned several newer SW (2002 and 2005) that I've sold because the cues were not straight. One of them had a slight roll in the middle of the cue and the other had a roll in the forearm.

Most of the SW cues that I come accross has a wobble in them..and everybody tell me its the european taper or compound taper is what causes the roll. It really hard to find a SW that is straight....and a lot guys sell and advertise that it's straight when it really not. I'm maybe picking up a 9 pointer soon and I hope it will be straight and play good. It the hotest stick in Taiwan right now, I think over 50% of the Pro player play with SW cues.

Duc.
Click to expand...

The BEST way to tell if ANY butt, esp. those with compound tapers, are straight is by spinning on a lathe.:)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top