Hallelujah
To me, Efren is like Ali. There may be people with a better record, there may be people that hit harder, and there may have been faster boxers.
But Ali is almost always mentioned as #1 whenever the topic comes up, just as I suspect Efren will be as well.
Finally someone on here that understands, there's Efren, then everyone else,
there's Ali, then everyone else, there's Bob Dylan then everyone else.
"may your heart always be joyful,
may your song always be sung,
may you stay forever young".
jack