Will It Fit

madjammer

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Moving into a new home soon and looking for some feedback on space for a 9' Diamond Professional. The upstairs bonus room is 16'2" x 25'5", normally plenty of room for a 9'. My dilemma is headroom. Cathedral ceilings lower the ceiling on one side of the room to 48" at it's lowest point. The room is offset from the roofline, so the other wall has a normal ceiling height. Best I can tell, the roof pitch is 6/12. By my math I'll have 77" from the outer edge of the outside rail to the wall with the low ceiling (60" from regular wall to cushion nose + 50" playing surface +7" for the rail facing the low ceilinged wall). I'm 6' tall and figure I can duck maybe 4-6" without too much effort. That would give me 36-40" of standing room to walk around the outside of the table rail while standing to eyeball shots, etc. Cueing shouldn't be an issue as I'd have around 77" from the cushion nose to the wall and I play with a low stance (chin dragger). Just looking to see if anyone had ran into similar issues and could offer some thoughts?

The other alternatives that I'm trying to avoid would be the out building or taking over the garage. The building is 40' x 80' and heated/cooled, but with 16' walls keeping that warm/cool year round in addition to the house will cost a small fortune. The garage has an insulated door and could be heated/cooled easily, but the wifey won't be super stoked about giving it up and parking outside. I may win the debate, but will I live to enjoy it lol?

Thoughts?
 
You could get some cardboard or plywood or corefoam and take it down to your local pool hall and construct a dummy sloped ceiling. See how it feels. Might be a don't care or you might find it really annoying.

Any way to partition off a 16x22 room in the outbuilding and heat/cool just that? It would eliminate obnoxious complaints about you breaking nine ball racks at midnight. ;)
 
Maybe a partition and drop ceiling in the out building, say 25 x 25 or so and an 8 ft ceiling. It's 2 walls and ceiling and could be feasibly built with repurposed materials, which is often pretty cool looking. This assuming there is already a good floor in it. If you think your room is almost big enough that is as good as it will ever be and will seem to shrink over time, or be uncomfortable enough you won't enjoy using it. If you do a partition start with the absolute smallest you can enjoy and then build it bigger, Man caves and game rooms can fill up with toys quickly. Mine is 25 x 25 and somehow my grandkids toys now take up a third of it.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
You could get some cardboard or plywood or corefoam and take it down to your local pool hall and construct a dummy sloped ceiling. See how it feels. Might be a don't care or you might find it really annoying.

Any way to partition off a 16x22 room in the outbuilding and heat/cool just that? It would eliminate obnoxious complaints about you breaking nine ball racks at midnight. ;)
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Good idea, Bob! I’ve got a table in our current house and some insulation board that I can use to build a mock up ceiling. The small partition is a possibility too. Thanks!
 
Maybe a partition and drop ceiling in the out building, say 25 x 25 or so and an 8 ft ceiling. It's 2 walls and ceiling and could be feasibly built with repurposed materials, which is often pretty cool looking. This assuming there is already a good floor in it. If you think your room is almost big enough that is as good as it will ever be and will seem to shrink over time, or be uncomfortable enough you won't enjoy using it. If you do a partition start with the absolute smallest you can enjoy and then build it bigger, Man caves and game rooms can fill up with toys quickly. Mine is 25 x 25 and somehow my grandkids toys now take up a third of it.

Good idea. The building is a nice barn/barndominium with a concrete floor, full kitchen, and a half bath. Partitioning a room sized section could work. Maybe a window A/C and small heater to avoid having to change the ductwork and run the large HVAC unit. Thanks!
 
60" from cushion nose to wall is too close. I have 61 3/4" and if that wall was any closer I would bump it regularly. Estimating a sloped ceiling at 48", at 61 3/4" from the nose, I would bump my head a lot and I'm 5'-9". At 77" and 6 feet tall, it won't be bad. I know you can make it work. I think you would be better off with 3 more inches to the wall and 74 inches on the sloped side. I think a touch over 5 feet is enough room to stand back, I don't find that as necessary for short shots across the table.
 
tomatoshooter said:
60" from cushion nose to wall is too close. I have 61 3/4" and if that wall was any closer I would bump it regularly. Estimating a sloped ceiling at 48", at 61 3/4" from the nose, I would bump my head a lot and I'm 5'-9". At 77" and 6 feet tall, it won't be bad. I know you can make it work. I think you would be better off with 3 more inches to the wall and 74 inches on the sloped side. I think a touch over 5 feet is enough room to stand back, I don't find that as necessary for short shots across the table.
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On the short wall/ceiling I’d have 40” (at best) off the rail of the table to back away and sight shots without having to bend over excessively. I can live with 60” off the cushion nose on the regular wall. I have a 52” cue I can use for frozen shots if I need a full backswing. I’m far more concerned with headroom on the other side of the room. Building a partition in the barndominium may be the best option.
 
Zerksies said:
can we possibly shift the table around? maybe layout some card board in the area with the tables dimensions
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Going to try that this weekend In the actual room. I’m thinking the partition will be the best route. Staying within 3’ of my current table while walking around it feels cramped.
 
I'm moving it out to the barn or I'm doing major construction.
If I'm playing pool in the comfort of my home I want comfort, I want comfort when not in my home, I'm paying.
If I want inconvenience I'll go to an over crowded bar with pool tables where people are bumping into me, leaning on my table, support poles in my way, etc.
Be careful lowering the ceiling it kills the acoustics, the game sounds like crap, no less than 10 ft.
My friends room is 15x20, 8 ft ceiling, sheet rock walls. He calls it the subway station, it sounds like crap, every sound is magnified, in a bad way.
Sometimes you have to go with the flow and take what you get..........I'm still going for comfort.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Has he tried acoustic tiles and drapes? Carpet?
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The floor is a double stick carpet install, padding is glued and the carpet is glued to the padding.
The walls are loaded with pool memorabilia., he was mulling over a ballistic sound dampening system.
He is removing and modifying the return system and ball tray, that really drives him nuts, it sounds like a bowling alley.
We will see and hear, he may just build another room, he's nuts.
 
One more curveball for you is the floor. With it being on the 2nd floor, are you confident the floor will be able to provide a stable foundation for the table? I'm sure it can carry the load, but will the table move as you are walking around it causing the balls to wobble? I've seen this many times on tables installed on a 2nd floor. Just another thing to consider.
 
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