will this forum die

[Rickw]

chicks in general are bitches but most of the chicks on here are kewl. :

I'm sure glad you said that! LOL!!! I have to agree with you that the women on this board seem pretty cool. I guess that's probably why a lot of male pool players would love to date a girl that likes pool the way you women seem to. It would be so cool to walk into a place with a lady on your arm that you could also hustle up some games with! I'll betcha Jeanette and George have had some fun times at some pool halls!!

 

[mark tadd]

Mark's pushing an "If you're not a pro, don't ever dare question a pro" elitist agends. That's a good intention?.

i think not, but i will say before you think you advice is as good or on par with a pros please prove it . with fact and not theory and mabey i can learn something. now thats fair right?

 

[Timberly]

I guess that's probably why a lot of male pool players would love to date a girl that likes pool the way you women seem to.

One would think so................

 

[mark tadd]

I've been playing pool for a long time. When I started, there were no pool schools. Good players didn't usually show you how to play. You learned by watching the better players and emulating the things you liked most about their games. Any knowledge that someone had was usually a guarded secret.

Now there are pool schools and bonefide instructors. However, because of what I described above, there is some distrust when someone says that you should perform something a certain way because many of us spent half our lives learning it differently the hard way. And, when someone shows you how to shoot a certain way, and they're a very good player, is that just something only they can do because of their physical abilities?

I tend to agree with Mark about the "feel" approach. Buddy Hall mentioned feel a lot when he was giving me lessons. He kept saying, "You have to feel the shot". I think the system approach is probably essential to beginning players but once you've hit thousands of shots, you have to start developing a "feel" for the shots and that's what you should rely on once you get to that level. Does this sound right Mark?

well put

 

[mark tadd]

Mark's ragging on the people who question what pros may say. People have a right to question what anyone says, pro or not. If he doesn't like that, he doesn't have to read it. That's my point, not that he should leave the forum forever.

I just mean if the posts of us "non-pros" offend him so much, he should go hang out where they don't come up. A phone booth maybe?.

umm non pro's posts dont offened me that would be childish. but when you tell me your advice is as good as a pros then i say lets put it to the test with proof. if you say oh ok but what about this . now thats a different atittude worth a humble response. but some seem or are a challenge that i would like to test

 

[Rickw]

well put

Thanks!! Coming from you, I consider that pretty high praise!!!

 

[pete lafond]

well put

So when you are off a little in a given day. How do you adjust your feel? I'm sure you just do not keep hitting balls until you feel them because that would be purely senseless as there is no measurable goal with feel.

I think many sense it is feel because they are not understanding what is really going on under-the-hood. When shooters play with feel it is because there is total trust in the engraved system they have established earlier in life. Many no longer even need to think about it.

Feel relates to confidence and is affected by emotions. When emotions are stirring up hazard, feel becomes unstable. Feel is not solid enough to rely on.

If a player pockets balls by feel, then the player should then be able to close his eyes and never misses a shot. If on the other hand, a player is playing at his peak performance, then he is doing so because his system is engaged in automatic and it is in fine tune.

 

[JLW]

So when you are off a little in a given day. How do you adjust your feel? I'm sure you just do not keep hitting balls until you feel them because that would be purely senseless as there is no measurable goal with feel.

I think many sense it is feel because they are not understanding what is really going on under-the-hood. When shooters play with feel it is because there is total trust in the engraved system they have established earlier in life. Many no longer even need to think about it.

Feel relates to confidence and is affected by emotions. When emotions are stirring up hazard, feel becomes unstable. Feel is not solid enough to rely on.

If a player pockets balls by feel, then the player should then be able to close his eyes and never misses a shot. If on the other hand, a player is playing at his peak performance, then he is doing so because his system is engaged in automatic and it is in fine tune.

For me (and I don't pretend to speak for anyone else here) the term "feel" is really about our kinetic sense; our innate sense of how our bodies move in space and where we are in relation to other objects. Take shooting a free throw for example. How do you know how hard to shoot the ball? You know through "feel." And through repetition, your body begins to get a keener "sense" of exactly how far it is from the basket and exactly how hard it needs to shoot the ball in order to make it. The more you practice, the better you get at free throws.

In pool, it's a "sense" of where you are in relation to the cb, the ob and the pocket. My contention has always been that, after you have pocketed enough balls, you begin to get that same "sense" of where you need to aim to make pool balls. It doesn't mean that you don't aim. You just don't consciously apply any technique or method to trying to determine a line of aim. You look at the shot, and your kinetic sense tells you what "feels" like the right place to aim based on your prior experience.

 

[matthew]

All in all, Mark's was a pretty good post. But as others have noted, the main forum consists of all types of posters. Those of us on the forum are involved with and love pool for a variety of reasons:

professional players
aspiring professionals
serious players
retired players
stakehorses and gamblers
pool instructors
pool students
room proprietors
equipment gurus
sponsors of the game
tournament organizers
benefactors of the game
fans of the game
new players getting excited about pool

Many who post fit into several of these categories. All these posters are what make this forum great, and not just the professionals, who certainly contribute in special ways at times.

It's the extraordinary variety of posters that will keep this forum alive and well.

Alot of these types of people make a pool hall great. Also happens to be one of the reasons why I post here, i like the people. I'd like to think that I've made some friends.

 

[pete lafond]

For me (and I don't pretend to speak for anyone else here) the term "feel" is really about our kinetic sense; our innate sense of how our bodies move in space and where we are in relation to other objects. Take shooting a free throw for example. How do you know how hard to shoot the ball? You know through "feel." And through repetition, your body begins to get a keener "sense" of exactly how far it is from the basket and exactly how hard it needs to shoot the ball in order to make it. The more you practice, the better you get at free throws.

Yes, you hit it correctly. However talking about how hard to throw the ball is feel, the aiming comes first. Hitting the cue ball is feel. Aiming again comes first. Aiming and executing are two different things all tied together. Without aiming the rest is misssed shots whether in basketball or pool.

 

[matthew]

I like to post here because there are good people who know things that I would like to know. There are also things that I feel may benefit some people, even the people who know more than myself. It's just a big fountain to draw knowledge from, and to poor knowledge into. The subjects I don't care about, I ignore.

I think that's basically it. If you don't like something, you can ignore it.

 

[mark tadd]

Alot of these types of people make a pool hall great. Also happens to be one of the reasons why I post here, i like the people. I'd like to think that I've made some friends.

you forgot to add 'critics of pro pool players advice'

 

[mark tadd]

All in all, Mark's was a pretty good post. But as others have noted, the main forum consists of all types of posters. Those of us on the forum are involved with and love pool for a variety of reasons:

professional players
aspiring professionals
serious players
retired players
stakehorses and gamblers
pool instructors
pool students
room proprietors
equipment gurus
sponsors of the game
tournament organizers
benefactors of the game
fans of the game
new players getting excited about pool

Many who post fit into several of these categories. All these posters are what make this forum great, and not just the professionals, who certainly contribute in special ways at times.

It's the extraordinary variety of posters that will keep this forum alive and well.

to tell you the truth i dont recognize very many of those titles on this forum.
but if you add 'critics of pro pool players advice' then i'd feel more at home. and also 'b players who think their advice is on par with a players' . ill try to help you out more later with your list, but this is all i could think of for now. sound good? lol

 

[vagabond]

Hey Mark Tadd,
I come to the Form for entertainment like watching a SOAP Opera and I am not here to learn how to play pool.For my learning process,I go to the teachers/coaches/instructers of the game.By the way Mark ,12 years ago you asked me to play you some Banks or Honolulu for Thousand $.U did not offer me any handicap spot.I declined then and I will decline now.Cheers
Vagabond

 

[Sweet Marissa]

I guess that's probably why a lot of male pool players would love to date a girl that likes pool the way you women seem to.

The problem is us girls finding a decent guy who likes to play pool!

 

[drivermaker]

i think not, but i will say before you think you advice is as good or on par with a pros please prove it . with fact and not theory and mabey i can learn something. now thats fair right?

Only one thing Mark...I don't remember YOU giving a whole hell of a lot of ANY advice.

 

[Fred Agnir]

you forgot to add 'critics of pro pool players advice'

If every post you read that questions something you say as "critics of pro pool players advice," then how are we supposed to learn anything from you? Obviously, we're not pros, so we're not going to understand everything you say. We're going to naturally ask questions.

I'm sure you asked questions when you were learning pool and poker. I'm sure you disagreed with much of what people had to offer. Isn't questioning part of learning???

Fred

 

[Fred Agnir]

The problem is us girls finding a decent guy who likes to play pool!

Hey darlin'. I'm a decent guy. And I'm a polygamist, so you're in luck.

Fred

 

[Sweet Marissa]

Hey darlin'. I'm a decent guy. And I'm a polygamist, so you're in luck.

Fred

Imagine my luck!

 

[landshark77]

The problem is us girls finding a decent guy who likes to play pool!

Funny...I had no problems.