Willie Hoppe Questions (pics)

~jj~

~jj~

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Hey Guys,

I just picked up this cue recently, and wanted some input from everyone. I have a couple of questions. Mainly should I attempt to restore this cue or leave it as is? Any ideas as to the value?

Any input is really appreciated.
Thanks!
 

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Looks right

The cue is probably a 1950's model I believe. The shaft may have been repaired.
Nick :)
 
Thanks!

Hey everyone. Thanks for the pm's mostly. And thanks Nick for the response. This looks to be a cue which hasn't been modified other than the screw to hold the threading tight in the shaft. The black collar seems to be indicitave of the rarity of brass during the war era of 1941-1945. I have learned so much about this cue since getting it and I just wanted to say thanks! For those who offered insight, you know who you are and I really appreciate it.

JJ
 
WWII model Ebony photo

Here is a photo of an Ebony War model

That went out for a conversion:)

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JJ, I have Extra original shafts for this model let me know if you need one .
Tank
 
~jj~ said:
Hey Guys,

I just picked up this cue recently, and wanted some input from everyone. I have a couple of questions. Mainly should I attempt to restore this cue or leave it as is? Any ideas as to the value?

The joint collar on the butt is not brass as it should be and comes off, which I am sure it shouldn't so that will likely need to be replaced. There is a tension screw of some sort in the shaft collar which looks like it was used to keep the threading tight? :confused:

Any input is really appreciated.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the P.M.

To respond, I think it's an original WWII Hoppe from the early 1940's, just about when they were first introduced. It is possible the joint material was changed out or replaced with a more modern plastic, but I believe this cue came with early phenolic linen instead of brass.

To identify the original phenolic linen, first it is not solid black plastic. You should be able to see wavy linen lines though the resin, as shown in Tank's excellent photo. The joint wall is thin, from 3/16th to about 1/8 inch, and the joint length is 1 1/2".

The reason why I believe phenolic was used originally on this cue is because of the joint tenon and screw style, plus the "Willie Hoppe" imprint on the forearm is in the correct script for these early cues.

I would leave it alone but just have the shaft collar fixed.

Chris
 
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Thanks Chris!

Thanks for the response. The phenolic but collar does have that same spiral effect as in Tank's photo. You can actually see it in the photo i took -- hoppe_forearm.jpg -- i believe.

As Tank mentioned, replacement shafts are available. Would you consider that to make the cue less original though if I were to get a different shaft or fix the shaft collar?

Thanks again!
JJ
 
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