Wood identification

[SSDiver2112]

From an old fat one piece cue I am turning down. Thanks

 

[fish2]

Could be black palm

 

[Lawnboy77]

I have the same old antique cue that I use as a rake. It came out of a Kentucky pool room that opened in the 20s. I think Fish2 has it right in Palm.

 

[Lawnboy77]

A very open grain. I think I refinished this back in the 70’s. I used it a lot back in those days. It played as good as any in my opinion.

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[pt109]

Lace wood?….there’s more more than one kind depending on its origin.

 

[R2PQZ]

Maybe Wenge

 

[SSDiver2112]

A very open grain. I think I refinished this back in the 70’s. I used it a lot back in those days. It played as good as any in my opinion.

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Thanks that looks a lot like this one did before I striped the finish off. I. Forgot to take a picture before I started.

 

[SSDiver2112]

Maybe Wenge

Thanks but not wenge. I have some of that and it is darker with even darker grain lines.

 

[SSDiver2112]

Lace wood?….there’s more more than one kind depending on its origin.

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Thanks but don’t think so I have some lacewood and it is much lighter than this cue and very different grain.

 

[Das Cue-Boot]

My vote: Ramin. Very common softish, straight grained hardwood about 50 years ago when they were clearing lowlands in Indonesia for palm plantations. Many of the mid price cues used it, including the Sears four piece thread on the shaft/socket on the butt cues. It is now considered endangered and difficult to get.

 

[Lawnboy77]

Thanks that looks a lot like this one did before I striped the finish off. I. Forgot to take a picture before I started.

And likewise your piece in the lathe looks just like I remember mine looking prior to applying the finish.
The most distinct feature of this wood is what you think might be tiny worm holes, but it isn’t holes at all, it’s just tiny black dots, almost like black paint overspray where the gun is spitting small droplets. Unique for sure. My old I-phone camera is not good enough to show that kind of detail.

 

[Lawnboy77]

My vote: Ramin. Very common softish, straight grained hardwood about 50 years ago when they were clearing lowlands in Indonesia for palm plantations. Many of the mid price cues used it, including the Sears four piece thread on the shaft/socket on the butt cues. It is now considered endangered and difficult to get.

Definitely not Ramin, all of us who played back in the 70s remembers the cheap cue shafts made with Ramin wood. Ramin looks almost identical to Bamboo, smooth, tight grained, completely opposite to the OPs cue.

 

[SSDiver2112]

Ramon was used mostly for shafts and is much lighter. I’m starting to agree with the Black palm answer.

Picture from Atlas

 

[Cuebuddy]

End grain would show better, Red Palm possibly.

 

[Mr. Bass Man]

I really think this wood is gonna be more red than black palm under finish, several of my Titlist have virtually identical grain

 

[SSDiver2112]

End grain would show better, Red Palm possibly.

I really think this wood is gonna be more red than black palm under finish, several of my Titlist have virtually identical grain

I'll do a test when I can. Since the butt end will be turned down for a sleeve and butt plate, I'll put some finish on to see what it looks like. I have a piece of red palm and it is less brown than this so not sure. Palm is seems correct, red or black is the question. I'll also face off the end to get a better look.

 

[muskyed]

Pen blanks in hand - black palm
Pen w/blank next to it - Laura oak
Boards - lacewood
Grain structure changes every 90 deg
Sorry, ment to say lakewood, corrected it.

 

[SSDiver2112]

Well as long as people are helping me with this wood ID let me ask another. I asked in a different thread and never got any response.
It is a Heubler SP I repaired. Here are pictures of unfinished, original finish and new finish. I was thinking walnut, but not sure.

 

[Das Cue-Boot]

Definitely not Ramin, all of us who played back in the 70s remembers the cheap cue shafts made with Ramin wood. Ramin looks almost identical to Bamboo, smooth, tight grained, completely opposite to the OPs cue.

Based on further descriptions and better pictures , I agree. It has a grain structure like a monocot, so likely a type of palm.

 

[muskyed]

Back to the orig question. It could possibly be some form of mahogany. Has a similar grain structure, also when you think about it, it is a inexpensive wood, for inexpensive sticks.