Words to describe steepness of angles into / out of rails?

[Pin]

What's the clearest way to explain size of angles into /out from rails?

Some of the options that come to mind are:

Steeper / flater
Wider / Narrower
Longer / shorter
Bigger angle / smaller angle

Ideally you'd have words that are self-explanatory and everyone understands intuitively, to avoid needing to give definitions. But I don't think I've found anything that achieves that yet.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I like steep vs shallow, but all the ones you mentioned are pretty clear, IMO. It just comes down to who's doing the talking and what comes to their mind.

 

[justnum]

Just be specific what is the competition spec for the angles into/out from rails.

Angle is a grade school math word, most people should know what it is.

As for the specific angles for a pool table rails, that can vary based installation widely.

 

[bbb]

Why not just use the numbers stated in spec sheets? A corner pocket facing mitre angle is normally stated in numbers in the neighborhood of 141, plus or minus 3 or 4 degrees, while the facing down angle is usually around 12 degrees, or so. I think that is pretty easy to understand already, why try to simplify that? Pretty easy to visualize an increase, or decrease of either of the pocket angles involved.

you are are not understanding the ops intent
ITS ANGLE INTO THE RAIL
NOT THE POCKET FACING ANGLES
jmho

 

[bbb]

What's the clearest way to explain size of angles into /out from rails?

Some of the options that come to mind are:
Steeper / flater
Bigger angle / smaller angle
Ideally you'd have words that are self-explanatory and everyone understands intuitively, to avoid needing to give definitions. But I don't think I've found anything that achieves that yet.

acute and obtuse could also be used

 

[Lawnboy77]

you are are not understanding the ops intenet
ITS ANGLE INTO THE RAIL
NOT THE POCKET FACING ANGLES
jmho

Okay so the angle of the bevel, both the top where the cushion is glued, and the lower bevel that forms the base of the subrail?

 

[bbb]

Okay so the angle of the bevel, both the top where the cushion is glued, and the lower bevel that forms the base of the subrail?

are you just trying to bust my balls??
or
are you really that dense??

 

[hang-the-9]

acute and obtuse could also be used
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I have to say, I have never, in my 30+ years of playing, have had an angle described as Acute or Obtuse LOL

 

[SlateMan]

 

[ChrisinNC]

What's the clearest way to explain size of angles into /out from rails?

Some of the options that come to mind are:

Steeper / flater
Wider / Narrower
Longer / shorter
Bigger angle / smaller angle

Ideally you'd have words that are self-explanatory and everyone understands intuitively, to avoid needing to give definitions. But I don't think I've found anything that achieves that yet.

Cushions that bank long or short is the most easily understood and widely used, in my opinion.

But in comparing how various cushions play, it’s not as simple as just saying they bank long, short or just right. How different cushions react to speed and spin can also differ greatly.

 

[hang-the-9]

Long or short is the most easily understood in my opinion.

I think this works best for describing what happens after you hit the ball as in "that shot was hit long", but if trying to explain how spin works or coaching someone, sharper/wider/flatter work better. It's a bit hard to say "if you use spin the shot will go long".

 

[Guy Manges]

Open or close, In or out...

 

[straightline]

Cushions that bank long or short is the most easily understood and widely used, in my opinion.

This is also backwards for carom billiards.

 

[MajorMiscue]

Why not just use the standard unit of measure, degrees? As in, "approaching the long rail at 45 degrees".

 

[SlateMan]

Why not just use the standard unit of measure, degrees? As in, "approaching the long rail at 45 degrees".

Cause every pool room is kept at a different temperature....duh.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Why not just use the standard unit of measure, degrees? As in, "approaching the long rail at 45 degrees".

Sometimes angles are measured from the line of the reflector (nose of cushion) and sometimes they are measured from the perpendicular. Of course the special case of 45 is the same for both ways.

How about "more parallel to the cushion than expected" or "straighter out from the cushion than expected? "Long" and "short" mean absolutely nothing to a lot of pool players. In fact a lot of pool players are not sure what an "angle" is. Really. Too long since high school geometry.

 

[Pin]

Sometimes angles are measured from the line of the reflector (nose of cushion) and sometimes they are measured from the perpendicular. Of course the special case of 45 is the same for both ways.

I think that's the nub of the problem. One man's big angle is another man's small angle...

 

[Patrick Johnson]

How about "more parallel to the cushion than expected" or "straighter out from the cushion than expected? "Long" and "short" mean absolutely nothing to a lot of pool players. In fact a lot of pool players are not sure what an "angle" is. Really. Too long since high school geometry.

For one-word descriptions of more/less perpendicular I like...

- steeper/wider
or
- shorter/longer

pj
chgo

 

[Bob Jewett]

For one-word descriptions of more/less perpendicular I like...

- steeper/wider
or
- shorter/longer

pj
chgo

But if you are using such short descriptions in an extended discussion, I think you have to define them the first time you use them just as in some technical journals the authors are expected to define acronyms, such as CTE, the first time they use them.