World pool masters 2/2/23

Jack Fate

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Sorry but a soft break warning against Alex P after he made a ball and 3 other balls crossed the head string on his break.
I’m not a fanboy of either player but see an issue here .
Ref has been called out a few times now
Either the perception rule or ref needs to leave.

Matchroom 9 ball ?
 
I think we need to understand history to gauge what’s happening. First there was the classic Corey Deuel soft break.

That led to the introduction of the 3 point rule where each ball going in a pocket or past the headstring counts as a point and you need 3 points to be compliant. That led people to assume a forceful break was needed. But players developed the skill to use a cut break to satisfy the three point rule, pocket the wired wing ball, dribble the 1 ball to sit in front of the corner pocket, and get a good bounce of the cueball off the side rail that almost always leaves a look at the 1. Last year’s Asian Open allowed this and it was a mockery of the game. Break and runs were too often and easy. Little actual “pool” was played.

And the game has evolved to 9 on the spot but really that same cut break is available. Break box makes it harder to accomplish and harder yet to control the cueball. Smaller break box furthers that effort. But it’s still possible to satisfy the 3 point rule and park the 1 in the corner. Cueball control isn’t easy but if you master that, you definitely can undermine the luck factor and make the game less interesting with less push outs/safeties, more break and runs, etc Maybe Alex wasn’t trying to do that. Maybe he just accidentally hit it too thin. Either way, the way those balls dribbled around and the 1 parked in the corner is too similar to a soft break. Players shouldn’t chase that outcome and even if a player stumbles upon it accidentally, it’s fair game for the ref to warn them not to chase it. And using Matchroom’s forceful break rule is a fair application. Because honestly what the ref did there was ensure the WPC was giving fans real pool to watch.
 
I do understand the history, when at any time someone or a company figures out how to do something better than the rest , people feel the need to outlaw it .
Corey is my hero , as are hemi engines & super birds.
 
Correct sir , I was a bit irate at the time I posted but then again, spelling, grammar and punctuation is not my strong point
You can edit the thread title by going to post #1, clicking on "Edit" at the bottom, making your changes, and clicking on "Save."
 
I think we need to understand history to gauge what’s happening. First there was the classic Corey Deuel soft break.

That led to the introduction of the 3 point rule where each ball going in a pocket or past the headstring counts as a point and you need 3 points to be compliant. That led people to assume a forceful break was needed. But players developed the skill to use a cut break to satisfy the three point rule, pocket the wired wing ball, dribble the 1 ball to sit in front of the corner pocket, and get a good bounce of the cueball off the side rail that almost always leaves a look at the 1. Last year’s Asian Open allowed this and it was a mockery of the game. Break and runs were too often and easy. Little actual “pool” was played.

And the game has evolved to 9 on the spot but really that same cut break is available. Break box makes it harder to accomplish and harder yet to control the cueball. Smaller break box furthers that effort. But it’s still possible to satisfy the 3 point rule and park the 1 in the corner. Cueball control isn’t easy but if you master that, you definitely can undermine the luck factor and make the game less interesting with less push outs/safeties, more break and runs, etc Maybe Alex wasn’t trying to do that. Maybe he just accidentally hit it too thin. Either way, the way those balls dribbled around and the 1 parked in the corner is too similar to a soft break. Players shouldn’t chase that outcome and even if a player stumbles upon it accidentally, it’s fair game for the ref to warn them not to chase it. And using Matchroom’s forceful break rule is a fair application. Because honestly what the ref did there was ensure the WPC was giving fans real pool to watch.

that's a brilliant summary. i had not thought of all that. absolutely excellent.
 
@azhousepro , Mike, could we please have the thread's title corrected? To something relevant, like "Alex The Lion break incident at WPC 02/02/23"?
 
I remember when the World Pool Championship was in Philippines in 2007 and was won by Darryl Peach from England. Everybody was doing the "bird break," players like Francisco Bustamante and others. It was almost comical to see. I think Corey Deuel is credited for its genesis. After the bird-break World Pool Championship, they did change the rules to say 3 balls must pass the wide pocket, if memory serves me correctly.
 
This says it best.

I think it boils down to this. Make the 1 in the side? Good break because you’re letting luck decide the fate of your position on the 2 ball.

1 ball misses the side? It better not appear that you’re intentionally guiding the 1B to park in front of the corner pocket. And to be fair, Alex didn’t make the wing ball. It did land high so it was luck that decided whether a ball dropped. So it’s not exactly a problematic break but it is adjacent to one.
 
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