World Summit Results - Saturday

[Kerry Impson]

Oh, one other thing: Apparently JJ took five minutes to consider the layout and shoot. I know he's a deliberate player anyway, but what might have happened had this match been on the shot-clock? Maybe, as The One notes, JJ wouldn't have "overthought" the shot, but this is a great example of when a shot-clock can be a detriment to the game - sometimes a little more thought is needed than 30 seconds (or one minute in the case of hill-hill). Many times I've even seen fast players take several minutes to analyze the table before shooting, and although I'm not an extremely slow player I've done some pretty crazy things when the tournament director yells "TEN!" and I haven't figured out what to do yet. I'd be willing to bet the "bloopers at hill-hill" video contains a lot of shot-clock matches!!!

 

[sjm]

You're right; however, I didn't make myself clear - what I should have said was, "All things being equal, it's better to lose shooting," meaning that if the difficulty of the safety attempt is equal to the difficulty of the run-out, I believe it's better to go for the run-out. I didn't mean to attempt a crazy, low-percentage run-out when there's a simple, effective safety available. I hope that clarifies things a little.

Sorry I misinterpreted you, Runmout. Now we're on the same page.

 

[sjm]

...this is a great example of when a shot-clock can be a detriment to the game - sometimes a little more thought is needed than 30 seconds (or one minute in the case of hill-hill).

This is how it works today with the shot clock. You get one extension in every rack, but two at double hill. You are permitted to use both of your extensions on the same shot at double hill, and I've seen it done. Hence, you can devote ninety seconds to a tricky position at double hill provided you haven't used up an extension earlier in the rack.

 

[Kerry Impson]

As usual, sjm, you are right - I'd forgotten that there are TWO extensions at double hill (gosh, it really HAS been a long time!). Thanks!!

At any rate, I believe that (even) 90 seconds is not enough time to think in certain situations, and woe to the player who must do so!!

 

[sjm]

Great thread though, a bit more interesting than usual. It wouldn't be a bad idea to pick a few classic moments from past matches and aybe get feedback before revealing what actually happened - that would be fun LOL!

You know, The One, I never really considered the whole idea of a "How Would You Play This?" thread before. My original intent in displaying the position we've all analyzed together was just to report on the match in a way that I thought other serious players would find interesting.

Yours is a pretty good idea. Think I'll give it a try in a new thread, just to see whether people like that kind of thread.

 

[TheOne]

You know, The One, I never really considered the whole idea of a "How Would You Play This?" thread before. My original intent in displaying the position we've all analyzed together was just to report on the match in a way that I thought other serious players would find interesting.

Yours is a pretty good idea. Think I'll give it a try in a new thread, just to see whether people like that kind of thread.

Go for it sjm, maybe don't reveil too much about when and where the match(moment) occured, somebody will end up doing doing some research and "cheating"

It could be a very interesting theme, especially if you can dig some tricky positions form big games.

 

[malaguista]

Actually, that rule was implemented on the spot, it had to be. In 2001 when Corey won the US 9-ball open, he used the soft break only because the 9 ball was racked on the spot where the 1-ball would go. Every time the balls are racked like this at a tournament, Corey uses the soft break and is successful at it and then other players complain about it when he runs out on them. When the 1-ball is racked on the spot, the soft break is useless. And no other players complain. The rule is BS and is aimed at Corey only. For some reason, other players cannot seem to bring themselves to execute a soft break. So they just complain to the tournament director at each tournament.

Thanks for enlightening me, I was pretty sure that this rule was not standard as it doesn´t appear in WPA/BCA rules.
I have experimented with a soft break and if the balls are well racked it really works and on top of that it really upsets the opponent. Power to your elbow Corey.