Wrist Position - Please Advise

[will14.1]

Okay, so I've been told by instructors and great shots alike that it's best to have by wrist hanging straight with a loose grip (Deuel, Hohmann, Klatt). Lately it seems like there are a lot of pros who have their wrists slightly turned in while still using a loose grip (this is my perception, but perhaps I'm wrong). Examples include, Archer, SVB, Appleton, Dominguez, Reyes, Steve Moore, and there are others. Some of these players have shot like ever since I've been watching them. Others (SVB and Moore) seem to have changed to this style of shooting. Now for me, when I'm shooting I notice that if I'm struggling and switch to this (what I'll call a slightly inward direction, but again may be wrong) I seem to shoot a bit straighter/more accurate.

Is there something to this slightly inward wrist? Are my observations about current pros correct? I've been wrestling with this for quite some time (tried to search to web/forums and haven't found an answer) and don't know how to proceed? I would much appreciate any feedback someone can offer.

If this isn't clear or you want more info, just let me know and I'll happily try to explain myself a different way.

Thanks everyone,
Will

 

[Scott Lee]

Will...You've been told correctly. Keep it straight at ball address.

To your other two questions....no, and no.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Okay, so I've been told by instructors and great shots alike that it's best to have by wrist hanging straight with a loose grip (Deuel, Hohmann, Klatt).

Is there something to this slightly inward wrist? Are my observations about current pros correct?

Will

 

[ps611846]

okay, so i've been told by instructors and great shots alike that it's best to have by wrist hanging straight with a loose grip (deuel, hohmann, klatt). Lately it seems like there are a lot of pros who have their wrists slightly turned in while still using a loose grip (this is my perception, but perhaps i'm wrong). Examples include, archer, svb, appleton, dominguez, reyes, steve moore, and there are others. Some of these players have shot like ever since i've been watching them. Others (svb and moore) seem to have changed to this style of shooting. Now for me, when i'm shooting i notice that if i'm struggling and switch to this (what i'll call a slightly inward direction, but again may be wrong) i seem to shoot a bit straighter/more accurate.

Is there something to this slightly inward wrist? Are my observations about current pros correct? I've been wrestling with this for quite some time (tried to search to web/forums and haven't found an answer) and don't know how to proceed? I would much appreciate any feedback someone can offer.

If this isn't clear or you want more info, just let me know and i'll happily try to explain myself a different way.

Thanks everyone,
will

have you ever noticed rodolfo luat's wrist position? I think our grip is very personal and has to do with our body and vision. I really can't play with a straight or ''pointing inwards wrist''. My wrist points outwards and this is the only position that keeps my stroke straight.

 

[scottjen26]

I'm all for keeping things simple, and having your wrist or other body parts in neutral positions is certainly good general advice. However, that doesn't mean it should apply to everyone universally, or that there isn't a reason to potentially do something a bit different.

I've talked to several great players and top instructors who advocate a slightly cupped wrist. Like you, I've occasionally experimented with it, and while I'm generally in a neutral position I too have found that when I feel tight or not in rhythm or that I'm steering the ball a bit that sometimes cupping the wrist a bit somehow loosens my grip (more in the fingers) and prevents the steering motion.

I'm not sure for the players you mention if it was just developed naturally or purposefully, and I didn't remember to ask when discussing it. Maybe Stevie will comment if he sees this.

My advice is to play with it any maybe compare both styles over several sessions. If there is an appreciable positive difference, then it might be something you want to work with a bit more. If not, then stick to the neutral position.

Scott

 

[FranCrimi]

Okay, so I've been told by instructors and great shots alike that it's best to have by wrist hanging straight with a loose grip (Deuel, Hohmann, Klatt). Lately it seems like there are a lot of pros who have their wrists slightly turned in while still using a loose grip (this is my perception, but perhaps I'm wrong). Examples include, Archer, SVB, Appleton, Dominguez, Reyes, Steve Moore, and there are others. Some of these players have shot like ever since I've been watching them. Others (SVB and Moore) seem to have changed to this style of shooting. Now for me, when I'm shooting I notice that if I'm struggling and switch to this (what I'll call a slightly inward direction, but again may be wrong) I seem to shoot a bit straighter/more accurate.

Is there something to this slightly inward wrist? Are my observations about current pros correct? I've been wrestling with this for quite some time (tried to search to web/forums and haven't found an answer) and don't know how to proceed? I would much appreciate any feedback someone can offer.

If this isn't clear or you want more info, just let me know and I'll happily try to explain myself a different way.

Thanks everyone,
Will

Can you link us to a youtube example of someone who turns their wrist in like you're describing? Also if you can, let us know how many minutes/seconds into the clip. Thanks.

 

[will14.1]

vids as requested

Can you link us to a youtube example of someone who turns their wrist in like you're describing? Also if you can, let us know how many minutes/seconds into the clip. Thanks.

First, thanks everyone for the replies...and yes sure I'll try to find 2-3 vids of people who do this (I think). As far as seconds in, I think this is their "standard" shooting position. But yeah here goes...

SVB - I see what I'm talking about within the first 90 secs
http://youtu.be/aC2R84S0kiw

Appleton - really good shot happens from 30-40 sec
http://youtu.be/_Sa8HL0IpVI

Archer - 1.18 - 1.40 min (although quality is not as good as other two)
http://youtu.be/mIKZ6w0VNFQ

Here's another one of archer - better angle from 4.35 - 4.42
http://youtu.be/NtH_W0cezSI

This cupping or slight inward turn during their shooting is what I'm referring to. Thanks again everyone, and please remember I am in no way attempting to defame, suggest weakness, or cast aspersions. I'm just trying to answer some questions, get some feedback from this community, and learn as much about this game as I reasonably can so I can get better.

Thank you!
Will

 

[FranCrimi]

First, thanks everyone for the replies...and yes sure I'll try to find 2-3 vids of people who do this (I think). As far as seconds in, I think this is their "standard" shooting position. But yeah here goes...

SVB - I see what I'm talking about within the first 90 secs
http://youtu.be/aC2R84S0kiw

Appleton - really good shot happens from 30-40 sec
http://youtu.be/_Sa8HL0IpVI

Archer - 1.18 - 1.40 min (although quality is not as good as other two)
http://youtu.be/mIKZ6w0VNFQ

Here's another one of archer - better angle from 4.35 - 4.42
http://youtu.be/NtH_W0cezSI

This cupping or slight inward turn during their shooting is what I'm referring to. Thanks again everyone, and please remember I am in no way attempting to defame, suggest weakness, or cast aspersions. I'm just trying to answer some questions, get some feedback from this community, and learn as much about this game as I reasonably can so I can get better.

Thank you!
Will

Ok thanks for posting the links. I think SVB and Appleton aren't turning their wrists under like you say. Shane has a slight back-cock to his wrist which can give the illusion of a turned-in wrist, but if you look at his knuckles, you will see that they are along side the cue and stay consistent throughout his stroke. I think Appleton looks fine.


Archer also has a back-cocked wrist, but he does on occasion turn his hand under. I believe when he does that he is using the swipe method of applying side spin. It was a very popular method that players were using back in '80s-'90s. I was taught that method also, and still catch myself using it. It's not something I would recommend. Difficult to control.