WTH is wrong with the last 2 balls that they can't go in???

Start playing the 3 ball ghost using any ball plus the 8 and 9. If you miss the 8 or 9 with what you deem to be a reasonably easy shot, penalize yourself. For example, make yourself do 5 minutes of straight stroke drill or some other drill you hate to do. Or make yourself practice the shot you missed until you hit it 10 times in a row. Anything that will put some additional pressure on hitting these two balls.
 
What I try to work on is always playing shape. I feel that you go about shooting every ball and trying to get shape for the next and try to stay on the right side then all of a sudden you get to a point and you try to tell your brain that shape is no longer that important. You are trying to tell yourself that only making the ball matters. I think this has a mental impact to the point that you end up crossing a few wires in the brain. Try always shooting shape to a more precise location no matter which shot you are on.

Also your pre-shot routine needs to remain consistent throughout the rack.
 
It's not irony, it's why I picked it. I make players look good because they don't have to work for a win against me :frown:

It's not even the last ball, when I am in line for an easy run, I miss the easy shot complete the run. Play a tough shot with tough shape, get where I need to be, then miss. Even if I get another chance in the rack, in my mind I already lost because the other player should not even be at the table again.

I don't play pool for a living, but it's not fun to lose when you know you should have won. And do it over and over week after week.

I don't even know if quiting tournaments and league till I can make every ball in practice will work since it's not the same mentally. But I don't WANT to play in tournaments since I've had 20 years of the same missing the last few balls or missing easy shots to setup a run out.

So there have been some good comments on here. Play position on the last ball to keep the same routine is correct. Some good book recommendations. I also think "The Pleasures of Small Motions" is a great book on the mental game, and have also read the Inner Game of Tennis which has some good advice that can apply to pool.

But the real solution for this specific problem is to STOP THINKING ABOUT WINNING. Your mental approach is changing as soon as you see the end because your thinking it's all set up now for the win. Take the game one shot at a time. Every shot should be treated the same. Just keep thinking about following your pre shot routine and hitting each shot correctly down to the last one. Most of my break and runs I don't even realize it was a break and run until someone points it out afterwards because I was so focused on hitting each shot correctly. In the cases where I stop to think "Hey, a couple more routine shots and I'll have a break and run!", I often find a way to f**k it up.

Edit: There is also something to the "fear of success" comment. This also ties into pride, self-image, and mental calmness. Your life, health, and attitudes off the pool table all have an effect on both your playing ability and your ability to win, which are two separate things as you have experienced. This is just additional food for thought. Solution above still applies. It's just part of the reason it will help, but regarding the specific "fear of success" aspect, if you're not thinking about winning, you won't stop yourself from winning.
 
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It's not irony, it's why I picked it. I make players look good because they don't have to work for a win against me :frown:

It's not even the last ball, when I am in line for an easy run, I miss the easy shot complete the run. Play a tough shot with tough shape, get where I need to be, then miss. Even if I get another chance in the rack, in my mind I already lost because the other player should not even be at the table again.

I don't play pool for a living, but it's not fun to lose when you know you should have won. And do it over and over week after week.

I don't even know if quiting tournaments and league till I can make every ball in practice will work since it's not the same mentally. But I don't WANT to play in tournaments since I've had 20 years of the same missing the last few balls or missing easy shots to setup a run out.

Well, this is a mental thing!
There are 2 things, that cause missing the game winning ball:

1st: Pressure!
You apply pressure on yourself – that's normal – the Pros handle this better than us amateurs. They are used to more pressure.

2nd: ticking of the rack in your mind before shooting the last ball!
This also happens to all of us from time to time, cause we don't have to pay our bills with playing some racks.

WHAT CAN YOU DO?

1st: X-Ball.
It's a training game like playing the ghost (with a number of X balls depending on your skills X=3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9). But I think there's a difference in counting.
If you're on X=6 balls, you rack the last 6 balls of 9-ball (4 in front, 9 in the middle), break from your normal position. You get ball in hand after the break.
Now the difficulty: YOU HAVE TO RUN OUT!!!
Every runout you get a score of +1, every uncompleted rack is -1 !!!
You have to get to +10 racks within 40 racks (innings)! Using a 14/1 scoresheet is helping with that.
YOU WILL NOTICE, HOW MUCH PRESSURE A DIFFICULT 9-BALL WILL PRESENT, IF YOU'RE ON A SCORE OF +7 or +8…

2nd: playing position with the last ball.
Try to make the 8 in 8-ball, leaning the white ball against another ball of your opponents colour or leave it in a position, where your opponent may have a difficult ball (in case you miss the 8).
Try to make the 9 in 9-ball with placing whitey in an awkward position, in case you miss the 9!
Both of these thing will help to stay focused AND MORE IMPORTANT: that will calm you down, because you know "in case you miss, you won't leave a shot" – and then you won't miss, cause your brain is knowing of the good outcome of the shot!

Shoot straight,
Chris
 
It's not even the last ball, when I am in line for an easy run, I miss the easy shot complete the run. Play a tough shot with tough shape, get where I need to be, then miss. Even if I get another chance in the rack, in my mind I already lost because the other player should not even be at the table again.



Everyone who is competitive at pool has done this. You make the hard shot because you know its a tough shot, and you focus more on making the shot, your concentration on the tough shot is way up ,then after making the tough shot, you have a little let down, and take the easy shot for granted.....and miss.

I use to do this a lot, then I just started telling myself, this simple shot is actually tougher than the last shot, and I would focus a little more on the easier shot.......

I believe it's that simple.
 
"In the cases where I stop to think "Hey, a couple more routine shots and I'll have a break and run!", I often find a way to f**k it up." -Purpdrag

Could be any of the things mentioned in the thread so far, or none of them, but I know for me the above statement by Purpdrag is something I've struggled with. Making the 6 ball and getting the desired shape on the 7 ball (in 9 ball, other games similar) triggers something in my head that puts a lot of pressure on making the 7.

Have you played in, or gambled at, handicapped games? I played a lot of better players, and got the last 3 for a long time from just about all of them. Still do, actually, except a couple. When I have to finish I think the subliminal suggestion of the 7 as the final ball for so long throws me off.
 
Once again I managed to turn into what should have been easy wins in a tournament into losses.

Both losses were because I missed the last or second to last ball in every game. And the shots I made to get to those last balls were harder than anything I missed.

Lost 3-0 and 2-0 where I should have shut out the other guy. One game I had 2 chances to make the 8, although tough shots one rattled out one hung in the jaws.

I'm going to stop competing in tournaments till I can figure out why I always miss the game winning shots even when I am in perfect shape to make them. It's no fun clearing a table in 8 ball to the 8 or second to last then miss a makable shot to watch the other guy shoot in his balls with nothing in the way.

I swear that there is something in my Karma that just does not want me winning. I leave the place pissed off at myself and that's just not fun.

My opinion,,, stop fighting the out, just get the shot done! It's one ball at a time. You will have to find your happy spot when shooting the last ball or 2! What I used to do(like you probably do) is work myself up during my pre shot routine! That's the biggest problem! Don't work yourself up about the shot, that's what causes the miss!

I'll tell you what works for me,,,(kinda reminds me of you actually) :) on my last ball, I focus in like a "laser" at my object ball! The only thing I focus on is the contact point of the balls! Once I'm in line,,,, I'm a laser! Works for me

Maybe you should try free stroking a bit as well, loosen you up a bit! It's all in your head buddy, until you get over it, you're not gonna change! Forget about winning the game or match and concentrate on pocketing the balls<~~~ much more important than winning!
 
The last thing I want to do is give the other guy an easy out after I did the heavy lifting.

If am on the last ball or 2 and I think it's not great odds of running out (and depending on who I am playing), I start thinking about a safety.
 
Next time you are faced with the last one or two balls, try this: Walk away from the table and take a sip of water or wipe down your shaft. Then walk back and shoot them in.

I find when I do stuff like this I miss more, The more time I take the more pressure I feel builds and then you really feel dumb missing when you went out of your way to take a few seconds to make sure you DIDN'T miss lol. I just gained a second personality that I have while I play like "I can beat anyone". Being scared to lose or being embarrased is a huge mind fck so Stop caring so much and just shoot it would be what I say, no extra time or thinking to let doubts creep in.
 
Last two balls.

Everyone faces this problem in varying degrees. Advanced face it less often, naturally, than others. Two things can help turn it around, IMO, is: Be sure to "STAY DOWN" on the shot and follow through, and don't be thinking I "HOPE" I make this ball! In fact don't be thinking at all. Most amateur players fundamentals break down as pressure increases.
 
I've read this entire thread, you documenting your woes & issues & advice of others of how to circumvent this & their observations of your perceptions many of which I agree with so now I'll add my 2 cents.

Many have noted your negative outlook & I agree. Negative self talk is a detriment you need to eliminate, that's an important start.

Now lets address your problem at the table & how to solve that. Some of it is perception of the situation as the last 2 balls are no different than the first 2 balls, it's your perception of it. What I see a lot of in players like yourself who are at the stage of their development to where they are starting to get through racks is a problem with rhythm. Their rhythm tends to increase just a bit with each ball. As they get to the last 2 balls it tends to be much faster than at the beginning. This can be solved by having a rock steady preshot routine, addressing every ball the same way, giving each it's due attention. By maintaining the exact PSR every time you maintain your rhythm.

Additionally someone mentioned heart rate & adrenaline & this is a factor also. As players unfamiliar with getting out regularly startgetting to the point where they are getting through racks their breathing, heart rate & adrenaline tend to increase due to excitement. These can all be controlled through breathing, deep even breaths control heart rate, adrenaline & cortisol levels, meditation away from the table will help you learn control. Self awareness & subsequent application of this at the table will help your execution. Control your mind or it will control you & if you set your mind free then your ass & your game will follow.
 
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Now lets address your problem at the table & how to solve that. Some of it is perception of the situation as the last 2 balls are no different than the first 2 balls, it's your perception of it. What I see a lot of in players like yourself who are at the stage of their development to where they are starting to get through racks is a problem with rhythm. Their rhythm tends to increase just a bit with each ball. As they get to the last 2 balls it tends to be much faster than at the beginning. This can be solved by having a rock steady preshot routine, addressing every ball the same way, giving each it's due attention. By maintaining the exact PSR every time you maintain your rhythm.

I truly think this is the key, at least for me.
I've been told, jokingly, several times, "Koop, you're an A player 1-7, then you turn into a D player"...lol
Sadly, it can be true and I believe it's because I am speeding up and not taking my time.
 
A good player told me in the 60's...'the 1 ball is as important as the 9 ball'. Shoot every ball with the same rhythm and same intensity. I pratice 9 ball with 10 balls. It makes you do SOMETHING with the CB when you shoot the 9. Also, I've seen players slow down as they get closer to the 9 ball, and players that speed up. Both are bad. Keep your rhythm. Every ball in important, shoot them the same way
 
There is no doubt in my mind that choking can beget further choking. You say it yourself that it continues to happen with such regularity that you almost expect it. That is a self fulfilling philosophy. Next time take a deep breath and say to yourself ... NOT THIS TIME. Good luck.
 
Do it all the time myself. That's why they call us amateurs lol

take the 8 and 9 ball only and throw them on the table. take ball in hand and try and run out . do that consistantly and it will train your mind the no matter where the 8 and 9 are located you know you can get out. convidence is the key. train yourself that when u get to the 8 you just know you win
 
players who habitually run most of the rack and then miss at the end often have an issue with playing rhythm and slow down near the end of the rack.

Although slowing down is an issue with a few people, the far, far more common issue is people speeding up on the last couple of balls and not taking as much time as they normally would. Chances are this is what the OP is doing too.

The root cause is pressure, and how you choose to deal with it. I think thehoneybadger summed it up pretty well when he said "The more time I take the more pressure I feel builds and then you really feel dumb missing when you went out of your way to take a few seconds to make sure you DIDN'T miss." You feel like the pressure will only get worse so you want to go ahead and shoot quickly before it builds even more and has an even greater negative effect on your chances for pocketing the ball.

Where I disagree with him though is that while every ounce of your being might swear this is true while you are under the pressure of the shot, the absolute fact is that you will pocket the ball a much higher percentage of the time by not rushing the shot and taking at least the same amount of time as you normally do. You just have to force yourself to do it. Your full focus needs to be on the shot (and it takes a bit of time to get your full focus into it--it isn't a process that can be rushed) and not instead on thinking about how you need to shoot quickly before the pressure gets even worse which only serves to keep part of your focus elsewhere instead of where it is needed.

The benefits you get by taking the time to fully focus on the shot will, on net, far outweigh any negative affect from more pressure building up in that extra time. But as sjm points out it isn't good to take 3 minutes and 40 warm up strokes on the 8 or 9 ball either because by then your focus has diminished again. If you are taking that long it is because your mind has again gone back to "oh man, I'm not feeling so confident in making this ball, and if I miss this ball it is surely going to cost me the game and that just might put the match out of my reach yada yada yada...". You can't yet be fully focused with two warm up strokes, nor can you still be fully focused after forty. Take the normal amount of time you usually do, and if you have to err on one side, err on the side of taking a little extra time and not less time. Good chance it isn't even extra time anyway due to our distorted perception of time while under pressure.

As FranCrimi pointed out, in some cases it can be a benefit to take a second to take a sip of water or wipe down your shaft. You see pros do it all the time. The reason for this is because it gives you a few seconds to "reset" so to speak, for some of the pressure conversations in your mind to dissipate a bit and for you to collect yourself so that you can go back to the table ready to focus on being focused. One of the things you can tell yourself while taking your sip is "I've made this shot a billion times before, no reason why I can't make it this time and I just need to go up there and give it my full focus and hit it with the confidence that I am going to make it, because I know I can."
 
It's not even the last ball, when I am in line for an easy run, I miss the easy shot complete the run.

The cause for this is simply lack of focus. It could be due to the pressure you are feeling to run out the rack and that is in your thoughts and keeping all of your focus from being on the shot at hand, or it could just be that you are simply taking the easy shots for granted, not fully bearing down and giving them the same focus, which is a cause for misses of easy shots in all players, including pros.

Both losses were because I missed the last or second to last ball in every game. And the shots I made to get to those last balls were harder than anything I missed.

Play a tough shot with tough shape, get where I need to be, then miss.

Something else to keep in mind is that you are at least 3 times more likely to miss your next shot after just having made a fantastic shot than you are if your last shot was more mundane. The reason is because you lose focus after a great shot. Whether you realize it or not your mind is focused on "holy crap, I can't believe I made that, that was a great shot" or "way to go, wow, you hit that like a champ, pats on the back for that one" or even simply "whew, what a relief, I was worried I was going to dog that one, sure is nice that I made it or got there with the position and won't be turning over the table to my opponent". Whenever you make a fantastic shot you always have to take a few extra seconds to "let go" of the previous shot and move on past it and are ready and fully focused again for the next one.


A few other things that might help with your issue of missing the last couple of balls, some of which has already been mentioned:

Play shape on the 9 ball too (or whatever the last ball is depending on the game). This helps to keep the same type of rhythm and focus that you normally have. But instead of playing for super tight shape just play for something that isn't too terribly tough or precise. Maybe play for the middle of the table, or play to hit the middle diamond between two pockets, or something like that because you want most of your focus on pocketing the ball.

After a while your mind may have started to subconsciously associate the 7, 8, and 9 with pressure. One way to deal with this is to play 3 ball, but use the 7, 8, and 9 as the three balls. Break and run out, over and over and over. You will stop associating those balls with pressure, and will stop feeling the pressure simply because of the number on the ball. They will start to become "regular" balls again, just like any others. Heck, you can even play 3 ball the way you play the ghost, with ball in hand after the break. Or just throw them out on the table and start with ball in hand. The point is that you want to run them out without feeling pressure so you can break that association. Later in real 9 ball games once you are down to the 7, 8, and 9 left on the table you can even tell yourself that at this point it is no different than one of your 3 ball runs you practice with the 7, 8 and 9.

Another thing you can do to break the association of the 7, 8 and 9 with pressure is sometimes when you practice 9 ball, rack the 9 ball up front and the 1 ball in the middle. Play the 9 ball first, as if it is the 1 ball. Play the 8 ball second, as if it is the 2 ball, and play the 7 ball third, as if it is the 3 ball. Obviously the 1 ball is played like the 9 ball and is shot last, the 2 becomes the 8 ball, and the three becomes the 7 ball. I have heard that this has helped some people to stop feeling the pressure when shooting the 7, 8 or 9 in real games because they start to see them just like any other balls.
 
I find when I do stuff like this I miss more, The more time I take the more pressure I feel builds and then you really feel dumb missing when you went out of your way to take a few seconds to make sure you DIDN'T miss lol. I just gained a second personality that I have while I play like "I can beat anyone". Being scared to lose or being embarrased is a huge mind fck so Stop caring so much and just shoot it would be what I say, no extra time or thinking to let doubts creep in.


Hurry up and shoot is a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I don't like the odds.

Let me try again here. Missing shots at the end of a game is a common issue. I faced it many times on the pro tour.

Walking away from the table for just a few seconds to take a sip of water or wipe your shaft will break the nervousness that you are experiencing and give you a precious few seconds to take a breath and calm down. It will also allow you the opportunity to get your rhythm back.

It's a technique as old as pool itself. Pros have been doing it for generations.Try it. I know what I'm talking about.

The other option is to go into therapy for about 10 years and pay a ton of money to a therapist to figure out what it was in your childhood that caused you to lose your self esteem while under pressure.

I like plan 'A'.

There are some players, though, who are beyond hope. They insist on failing, no matter what.
 
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Remind yourself of what you have control over...your mechanics.

Also, as you are set, during the practice strokes visually picture in your mind the ball going in the pocket.
 
Remind yourself of what you have control over...your mechanics.

Also, as you are set, during the practice strokes visually picture in your mind the ball going in the pocket.

Well last match I played I won 5-2, missed one ball first two racks. No issues with missing 8 balls in any of the games. Had good focus, although it's tough to keep concentration when even your team-makes are saying stuff to you during the game LOL I did take a bit of time on shooting the 8, and took a few deliberate breaths and cleaned my shaft for a second to reset my mind a bit, don't know if that worked or not, but I did it even when I had easy shots on the 8.

Sad part is, it was a Texas trip tournament for TAP league, and I was the only one on my team to win a set so my winning did not mean much except to me personally.
 
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