Xtreme Breaker, or just X Breaker

gforces1911 said:
I read somewhere that Predator thinks that they have maxed out the price point that someone would pay for a break cue. This year the prices have busted above the $300 mark. The sledge II, the stinger and now the x.

Where are the X cues made and where are the distributed from?

A lot of players have given up their BK and used the X Breaker in the WPC. And of course a lot of them have held on to their BK. It is a matter of personal preference I guess. :) Some players seem to prefer a breaking cue with a leather tip.

The X Breaker is a jump break cue so you do not need another jump cue once you have it. If you spend $300 on a Bk, you still need to spend at least $50 on a jump cue but you cannot get something which jumps as well as the Xtreme tip.

There are many steps involved in cutting the tip, threading it, and tapping the female on the ferrule. Usually, our cutting tool needs to be sharpened every two to three tips. And then there is the steps with our special ferrule construction and other steps that are required to ensure a low squirt and accurate breaker. Not to mention to laser engrave the serial number on the joint pin of each cue, to build a piloted joint (which is more time consuming than a flat face), to laser engrave the logo on the Jump break joint, to spray layers of finish, to prepare our wood...etc.

The cues are built in the US. There are two people working in the shop right now. The labor cost is very expensive, not to mention the set up cost and other expenses. We have been working on this project for well over a year and we have been working with a company in LA which is engineering the xtreme tip material for us exclusively.

We have talked to a lot of players and have asked them to try our X Breaker. We have made many improvements based on their feedbacks. We honestly believe our X Breaker is the best jump/break cue out there. We are not being any more expensive than the other two major brands, which we believe to be less effective especially in the control and accurancy department.

The cues will be distributed from WA, USA or BC, Canada. I have an office in Canada and the shop is in WA, USA.

Thank you very much for your interest. I hope I have answered all your questions.

Regards,
Richard
 
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nipponbilliards said:
A lot of players have given up their BK and used the X Breaker in the WPC. And of course a lot of them have held on to their BK. It is a matter of personal preference I guess. :) Some players seem to prefer a breaking cue with a leather tip.

The X Breaker is a jump break cue so you do not need another jump cue once you have it. If you spend $300 on a Bk, you still need to spend at least $50 on a jump cue but you cannot get something which jumps as well as the Xtreme tip.

There are many steps involved in cutting the tip, threading it, and tapping the female on the ferrule. Usually, our cutting tool needs to be sharpened every two to three tips. And then there is the steps with our special ferrule construction and other steps that are required to ensure a low squirt and accurate breaker. Not to mention to laser engrave the serial number on the joint pin of each cue, to build a piloted joint (which is more time consuming than a flat face), to laser engrave the logo on the Jump break joint, to spray layers of finish, to prepare our wood...etc.

The cues are built in the US. There are two people working in the shop right now. The labor cost is very expensive, not to mention the set up cost and other expenses. We have been working on this project for well over a year and we have been working with a company in LA which is engineering the xtreme tip material for us exclusively.

We have talked to a lot of players and have asked them to try our X Breaker. We have made many improvements based on their feedbacks. We honestly believe our X Breaker is the best jump/break cue out there. We are not being any more expensive than the other two major brands, which we believe to be less effective especially in the control and accurancy department.

The cues will be distributed from WA, USA or BC, Canada. I have an office in Canada and the shop is in WA, USA.

Thank you very much for your interest. I hope I have answered all your questions.

Regards,
Richard


All things being equal, that cue will sell on looks alone, it looks like a $300.+ cue. Although, the market for expensive break cues is very very small no mater how you look at it. A break cue needs to sell in the $150.00 range to really sell. At that price you could sell many times more cues possabily 5 to 10 times as many cues. That is just the reality. $300. is a lot for the average player, they just won't go for it.
 
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macguy said:
All things being equal, that cue will sell on looks alone, it looks like a $300.+ cue. Although, the market for expensive break cues is very very small no mater how you look at it.
Yes, the market is smaller for sure, may be even too small for someone to make a significant profit. It is not going to be easy. :)

I remember when Predator first came out, a lot of players including myself did not have any idea what they were talking about. And we had no idea why a shaft would be so expensive either.

I do not consider the X Breaker in the same class as the other "expensive" break cues or jump break cues. In my opinion, the X Breaker has all the benefits of the other cues plus it is a cues with the prefect combination of power and precision, which is something none of these other breaking cues can offer. Not to mention that the X Breaker features a tip which is harder than all other breaking tips yet holds chalk as well as a leather tip. Once a player has tried this tip, he would not want to go back to a conventional phenolic tip.

I am hoping the X Breaker (www.xtremebilliards.com)would become the choice of players who want a cue with the best performance and durability.

Even if the market is not big, it would be very rewarding to see pool players appreciating something which so much efforts and time have been put into; it would be even more rewarding when they actually enjoy their improved equipments and become better players ;)

Thank you for the kind words on the design.

Take care,
Richard
 
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Not to dis or anything ...

Not to be disrespectful to the product or anything,
but a tip harder than phenolic and holds chalk well
almost sounds like an oxymoron to me ....

I have read everything I could about this product and
about the Jerico Stinger. I don't see where this one
is much different from the claims made by the Stinger.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Not to be disrespectful to the product or anything,
but a tip harder than phenolic and holds chalk well
almost sounds like an oxymoron to me ....

I have read everything I could about this product and
about the Jerico Stinger. I don't see where this one
is much different from the claims made by the Stinger.

Dear Scott,

Yes, you are right. It is something most players have ever experienced before. To have a tip that is hard yet hold chalks so well is a big leap forward. It allows the player to address the cue ball lower and more to the side, it also allows the player to break and jump with spin and not having to worry about the miscues. Morever, it offers better feedbacks and a more quiet hit. The X Breaker is very revolutionary indeed.

Most importantly, it allows the player to have better control of the cue ball.

I do not like to degrade another product, especially when it is a good one, on a public forum. I will just try to answer your questions here by stating the differences.

* The Stinger does not have a low deflection shaft, the X Breaker does.

* The Stinger features a tip which is softer than the Xtreme tip and yet not holding chalk as well; in other words, it is easier to jump with the X Breaker and the X breaker has a much lesser chance of a miscues off the break or when jumping.

* The Stinger does not use any joint collar so eventually you would have to deal with the wood cracking and chipping. With the X Breaker, you do not have to worry about that. If a cue is meant to break the ball real hard, shouldn't it be constructed to withstand a lot of impact?

* The X breaker is engineered with a lot of special features to try keep the cue ball on the table even if the player is breaking the balls very hard. The Stinger is not.

* The X breaker features a piloted joint while the Stinger features a flat face joint. The piloted joint is by definition tighter.

* Besides, the 14 thread pin is the most common pin nowadays and a lot of shaft can be interchanged so the X Breaker is more versatile. That is why Ronnie Alcano used his X Breaker playing in the WPC. It is because his 314 shaft can also fit on the X Breaker prefectly. You get more value for your money spent with the X Breaker.

* The Stinger only offers wood wrap model. The X Breaker features linen wrap but wood wrap models will also be offered very soon in the future. X Breaker is engineered for the players to enhance their games. If a player has a sweaty palm, he would not want a cue with no wrap as it would feel too slippery. The X Breaker has addressed this and a lot of other problems that the players may have.

I have tried the Stinger and I think it is a fine cue.

Jennifer Chen has also tried the Stinger in Vegas and she used to break with a Sledgehammer. Once she switched to the X Breaker in July, she has been doing nothing but winning(a Silver Medal in the World Game and a 3rd place finsih in Peoria). By her own account, the X Breaker is the best!
I hope this has answered your questions.

Thank you very much for yoiur interest.

Richard
 
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* The Stinger does not have a low deflection shaft, the X Breaker does.
Rich, how can your ferrule/tip be harder than phenolic and still be low deflection? How can it be lightweight?

The Stinger features a tip which is softer than the Xtreme tip and yet not holding chalk as well; in other words, it is easier to jump with the X Breaker and the X breaker has a much lesser chance of a miscues off the break or when jumping.
If your tip is harder than phenolic, pool hall owners might go up in arms and ban X Breaker b/c they'd prolly ding the balls.
* The Stinger does not use any joint collar so eventually you would have to deal with the wood cracking and chipping. With the X Breaker, you do not have to worry about that. If a cue is meant to break the ball real hard, shouldn't it be constructed to withstand a lot of impact?
Very true. The Stinger does not have a collar at the bottom of their forearms. Weak design imo for a pointed cue.
 
JoeyInCali said:
* The Stinger does not have a low deflection shaft, the X Breaker does.
Rich, how can your ferrule/tip be harder than phenolic and still be low deflection? How can it be lightweight?

Joey,
How are you!
Good question. Normally, it is not possible.
In this case, it is. It is because the Xtreme tip is lighter than wood in weight. It is supposed to be a secret. Also, because the tip is threaded on all the way into the ferrule. And the ferrule material is very light but indestuctable, among other things.

JoeyinCali said:
The Stinger features a tip which is softer than the Xtreme tip and yet not holding chalk as well; in other words, it is easier to jump with the X Breaker and the X breaker has a much lesser chance of a miscues off the break or when jumping.
If your tip is harder than phenolic, pool hall owners might go up in arms and ban X Breaker b/c they'd prolly ding the balls.

Good Point!

I didn't see any broken cue ball when Bustamente was breaking with the X Breaker on TV in the WPC! ;)

Ronnie Alcano was breaking with it for at least 4 TV matches and there was no broken pieces flying around either. ;)

I have asked Wu to try the X breaker when I was in Taiwan. He broke with full power, which was scary believe me, and the cue ball stayed on the table with only a very few number of balls remaining. It did sound like for a moment that something was broken. Most of us stepped back when the cue ball hit the rack because of how hard his break was!

Joeyin Cali said:
* The Stinger does not use any joint collar so eventually you would have to deal with the wood cracking and chipping. With the X Breaker, you do not have to worry about that. If a cue is meant to break the ball real hard, shouldn't it be constructed to withstand a lot of impact?
Very true. The Stinger does not have a collar at the bottom of their forearms. Weak design imo for a pointed cue.

I do not really want to attack someone else's product. I am glad you agree with me nevertheless.

Please go check out the jump shots in the site www.xtremebilliard.com

Tell me what you think especially about the double jump! :D :D

Take care,

Richard
 
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nipponbilliards said:
Joey,
:)
Yes, but you can see the X Breaker sitting right next to his case. It is the Flaming Birdseye model with an orange stained on birdseye maple.
There is a picture of Corey breaking with the X Breaker on the site.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to click the site(www.xtremebilliard.com).
Take care,
Richard

I'm with Corey right now and said he will sell his X breaker that you see pictured above for $300 or the highest bidder by Friday the 19th at 3:00pm. Corey with also sign the cue if you want. You can also buy any of his playing cues at www.woodpeckercues.com. Any questions Corey will be here until 2:30pm.
 
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Al-fahl Amir said:
I'm with Corey right now and said he will sell his X breaker that you see pictured above for $300 or the highest bidder by Friday the 19th at 3:00pm. Corey with also sign the cue if you want. You can also buy any of his playing cues at www.woodpeckercues.com. Any questions Corey will be here until 2:30pm.
why is he selling it?

also, does anyone else feel like they just sat through one of those infomercials?
 
alias said:
why is he selling it?

also, does anyone else feel like they just sat through one of those infomercials?

Due to his woodpeckercues.com deal he may be unable to play with it.
 
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