bcf said:
Even Chao got shot down in Guinness 9-Ball Tournament.
Yang is just one international tournament win to glory.
Yang as Player of the Year
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Even Chao got shot down in Guinness 9-Ball Tournament.
Yang is just one international tournament win to glory.
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Of course it's just average, not absolute. Efren Busta and a few other pioneers etc they have dominated the pool arena longer than the younger pinoys. (Note: I'm not putting down any top Europeans and Americans) As for Yang, somehow he's kinda defensive style, not sure how it'll turn out for him, but I'll still dump all my vcash on him.jsp said:
sjm said:
I agree. And, as smashmouth correctly pointed out, there's still a lot of pool yet to be played.
Yang is an exceptional talent and much has been / is expeced of him. However, outside of the San Miguel Asian 9 Ball tournaments (now the Guiness 9 Ball tournaments) and his big win over Orcollo in the much balleyhooed money match, he has not knocked off a major championship. I would say he is a definite candidate of "Best player never to have won a major." But the good news is that he is young, he seems hungry and focused, his fundamentals are solid and he has a very promising future.
I believe someday, Yang will be the POY. But based on what's he's done so far...not right now.
Orcullo, SVB, Pagalayan and Alcano have all won tourney's this year with fields deeper than the Asian 9 ball tour
either of them takes the US open or the Worlds and they automatically leapfrog Yang in my book
either of them takes the US open or the Worlds and they automatically leapfrog Yang in my book
Yang has not shown his superiority outside of the Asian scene. Yes, he has dominated the Guinness 9ball tour but how many games does it take to win each tournament? Two games for the qualifying round and then 3 more games to win the top spot (only 5 games per tournament). Compare this to the WPC, BCA, US Open, Derby and the IPT tournaments and it is like comparing apples to oranges. IMHO, Orcullo, Pagulayan and even Manalo are better over-all players than Yang.
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I suppose different players have different styles. Some are good at marathons while some are good at short races. It's about stamina, and luck also plays a part. Just my thoughts.
Another winner in the 2007 Guinness 9-Ball Tournament Chang Jung-Lin is 21 years old, not to mention when Wu Chia-Ching won the World champon, he was only 16 year old.
De Luna has ever beaten Yang in the Asian Games, but in the Asian tours he failed to advance to the final eight again and again and again.
"Even Chao got shot down in Guinness 9-Ball Tournament." - it's true, but didn't Bustamante been frustrated in the asian tours either?
"Yang is just one international tournament win to glory." - Yang was also the winner of 1998 & 2002 Asian games (defeated Antonio Lining & Warren Kiamco), World game (defeated Ralf Souquet), Japan Open(defeated Busatamante), 2005&2006 Super Cup, the 2005 Philippines Open......
The attendants of the Super Cup
2005 -
Wu Chia-Ching
Chao Fong-Pang
Chang Jung-Lin
Kuo Po-Cheng
Yang Ching-Shun
Reyes
Bustamante
Pagulayan
Manalo
Strickland
Souquet
Takahashi
Tan T. Boon
2006-
Chang Jung-Lin
Chao Fong-Pang
Fu Che-Wei
Lee Kun-Fang
Wu Chia-Ching
Yang Ching-Shun
Hayato Hijikato
Alex Pagulayan
Jose Parica
Ronato Alcano
Rodmey Morris
Thomas Engert
Raj Hundal
Ralf Souquet
The attendants of the 2005 Philippines Open
Efren Reyes Philippines
Francisco Bustamante Philippines
Alex Pagulayan Philippines
Marlon Manalo Philippines
Roberto Gomez Philippines
Rodolfo Luat Philippines
Gandy Valle Philippines
Leonardo Andam Philippines
Kunihiko Takahashi Japan
Satoshi Kawabata Japan
Young-Hwa Jeong Korea
Johnny Archer U.S.A.
Corey Deuel U.S.A.
Gabe Owen U.S.A.
Charlie Williams U.S.A.
Rodney Morris U.S.A.
Mika Immonen Finland
Marcus Chamat Sweden
Tony Drago Malta
Thorsten Hohmann Germany
Thomas Engert Germany
Niels Feijen Netherlands
Imran Majid U.K.
Che Wei Fu
Pei-Wei Chang
Chao Fong-Pang
Wu Chia-Ching
Yang Ching-Shun
De Luna has ever beaten Yang in the Asian Games, but in the Asian tours he failed to advance to the final eight again and again and again.
"Even Chao got shot down in Guinness 9-Ball Tournament." - it's true, but didn't Bustamante been frustrated in the asian tours either?
"Yang is just one international tournament win to glory." - Yang was also the winner of 1998 & 2002 Asian games (defeated Antonio Lining & Warren Kiamco), World game (defeated Ralf Souquet), Japan Open(defeated Busatamante), 2005&2006 Super Cup, the 2005 Philippines Open......
The attendants of the Super Cup
2005 -
Wu Chia-Ching
Chao Fong-Pang
Chang Jung-Lin
Kuo Po-Cheng
Yang Ching-Shun
Reyes
Bustamante
Pagulayan
Manalo
Strickland
Souquet
Takahashi
Tan T. Boon
2006-
Chang Jung-Lin
Chao Fong-Pang
Fu Che-Wei
Lee Kun-Fang
Wu Chia-Ching
Yang Ching-Shun
Hayato Hijikato
Alex Pagulayan
Jose Parica
Ronato Alcano
Rodmey Morris
Thomas Engert
Raj Hundal
Ralf Souquet
The attendants of the 2005 Philippines Open
Efren Reyes Philippines
Francisco Bustamante Philippines
Alex Pagulayan Philippines
Marlon Manalo Philippines
Roberto Gomez Philippines
Rodolfo Luat Philippines
Gandy Valle Philippines
Leonardo Andam Philippines
Kunihiko Takahashi Japan
Satoshi Kawabata Japan
Young-Hwa Jeong Korea
Johnny Archer U.S.A.
Corey Deuel U.S.A.
Gabe Owen U.S.A.
Charlie Williams U.S.A.
Rodney Morris U.S.A.
Mika Immonen Finland
Marcus Chamat Sweden
Tony Drago Malta
Thorsten Hohmann Germany
Thomas Engert Germany
Niels Feijen Netherlands
Imran Majid U.K.
Che Wei Fu
Pei-Wei Chang
Chao Fong-Pang
Wu Chia-Ching
Yang Ching-Shun
smashmouth said:
Orcullo has never did well in WPC, Asian tours and the Philippines Open, he was even massacred by Yang in the money game in his own country. Souquet was defeated by Alcano's soft breaks......
If top taiwanese players would like to pay their all attention on US open, the World 8-ball championships....., I'm sure they will be also great as they did in WPC, the Junior's WPC and the International Challenge of Champions.
As for IPT, I heard Hsia has received his money yet.
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He's got talent and potential, just hope for the best. Still all vcash on him.gopi-1 said:He won in the 1998 and 2002 Asian Games, 2 tournaments in 2005 and
another in 2006 and you want it to be credited to him to be the POY for 2007???
yankwin said:
POY is a year by year performance. In those years that you mentioned, someone else outshined him. Besides, if you look at it that way, then Efren Reyes will always be the POY.
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Where are the 2007 cheerladies..
He came in 2nd in 2007 8-ball WPC.yankwin said:
luckylady said:
That's awesome.