Hail Mary Shot said:Why Ain't there no pics of pretty women ?
Yeah, put that girl from Guam on here. I'd watch her practice for an hour or two or three.
Yang vs. Orcullo
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Yeah, put that girl from Guam on here. I'd watch her practice for an hour or two or three.
Hail Mary Shot said:Why Ain't there no pics of pretty women ?
They are not in the pool venue. Just take a break from pool and click on these links below if you want to see beautiful Filipinas. Now if they could only be taught how to play even passable pool by the Filipino champions over there then the women would be also be noticed
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNJsq4C_T8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdtxSnee1ps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ScA2FDXoo&mode=related&search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMT1iTRXhrM
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I do not expect this match to be so close after the second day. With regard to the comment that Yang played sloppy, I believe Yang is just warming up, and trying to adjust to the equipment and the atomsphere--he just got there, in another country, playing in a mall, with a crowd totally on the other guy's side, speaking in a foreign language. Even the ref is a local. He is down by only one game so it really is a tied match here.
Yang is capable of putting together many break and runs and so does Dennis, I expect to see each player trying real hard to pull a big lead on the second day, with lots of run outs. So, the break is really important. Whoever gets the break dailed in first would be at a great advantage.
I read a lot of rerack requests, does that mean the ref is not racking the balls tight, or perhaps not lined up along the center line of the table?
Whoever gets a big lead going into the third day will put a lot of heat on the other guy, and will most likely wins. I think whoever could see the finish line first would play even better, and the result should not be as close as they are now.
Just my 2 cents.
Richard
Yang is capable of putting together many break and runs and so does Dennis, I expect to see each player trying real hard to pull a big lead on the second day, with lots of run outs. So, the break is really important. Whoever gets the break dailed in first would be at a great advantage.
I read a lot of rerack requests, does that mean the ref is not racking the balls tight, or perhaps not lined up along the center line of the table?
Whoever gets a big lead going into the third day will put a lot of heat on the other guy, and will most likely wins. I think whoever could see the finish line first would play even better, and the result should not be as close as they are now.
Just my 2 cents.
Richard
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Check out Poolphilippines.com for the story.
Sorry Gopi - I fear you've been misled by a poster here, at no point did I ever promise blow-by-blow coverage. No press room at the venue. The person uploading results to cues.com.tw is probably your best bet for on demand scores, he's there at the venue uploading the results from his chair at the stands. I'm lugging around a camera.
Sorry for the late upload. Had some technical difficulties.
Sorry Gopi - I fear you've been misled by a poster here, at no point did I ever promise blow-by-blow coverage. No press room at the venue. The person uploading results to cues.com.tw is probably your best bet for on demand scores, he's there at the venue uploading the results from his chair at the stands. I'm lugging around a camera.
Sorry for the late upload. Had some technical difficulties.
jay helfert said:
Can't blame Dennis, especially if it's a televised match. the pressure is just too much for these players especially if both have such high credentials, the fear factor comes into effect. however, you are right about your analysis. if Dennis had lead by a mileage on the 1st day, Yang would have a difficulty getting his composure. but still, it's too early to say.
X Breaker said:
Ces Marquez is the ref. She's a WPC vet. Apparently they didn't get to pre-mark the area of the triangle (S.O.P. at the WPC - which most of the Filipino refs have adapted), before the match, and had to do it mid-match with a ballpen. If you don't, you get a lot of complaints from players that the balls aren't tight enough - which is what happened there.
Everything went fine after they marked the area.
cuycuy said:
Thank you for the pictures, and the detailed and well written report on your web site. From the pictures, I see that Orcullo is no longer breaking with his Samsara cue.
Great shots by the way.
I have a few questions:
1. How many people are travelling with Yang, is it only Robert Huang?
2. Are they using the YTT cloth, or Simonse cloth on the tables?
Thank you very much.
Richard
X Breaker said:I do not expect this match to be so close after the second day. With regard to the comment that Yang played sloppy, I believe Yang is just warming up, and trying to adjust to the equipment and the atomsphere--he just got there, in another country, playing in a mall, with a crowd totally on the other guy's side, speaking in a foreign language. Even the ref is a local. He is down by only one game so it really is a tied match here.
Yang is capable of putting together many break and runs and so does Dennis, I expect to see each player trying real hard to pull a big lead on the second day, with lots of run outs. So, the break is really important. Whoever gets the break dailed in first would be at a great advantage.
I read a lot of rerack requests, does that mean the ref is not racking the balls tight, or perhaps not lined up along the center line of the table?
Whoever gets a big lead going into the third day will put a lot of heat on the other guy, and will most likely wins. I think whoever could see the finish line first would play even better, and the result should not be as close as they are now.
Just my 2 cents.
Richard
Very good evaluation here Richard. Who takes charge on Day Two will probably win. And yes, it looks good for Yang right now.
cuycuy said:
Ces Marquez is the ref. She's a WPC vet. Apparently they didn't get to pre-mark the area of the triangle (S.O.P. at the WPC - which most of the Filipino refs have adapted), before the match, and had to do it mid-match with a ballpen. If you don't, you get a lot of complaints from players that the balls aren't tight enough - which is what happened there.
Everything went fine after they marked the area.
I remember this lady from the WPC. She is a very good ref. Of course, the refs over there are the best I've ever seen at any major championships. All were knowledgeable and well trained. My compliments to the Philipines.
I'll ask. He uses a Japanese break cue from what I heard. My guess is it's Mezz because he uses a Mezz Hybrid-Pro shaft.
Only Huang as far as I know. The Taiwanese pack consists of some local translators I met during the WPC who live in the Philippines.
I asked an organizer, he said YTT. I asked the Star Billiards worker on-site (who did the set-up) and he said Simonis 860. I tried looking for the label (I can't tell it by touch), but people around the stands generally agreed it was a Simonis.
cuycuy said:
Thank you so much for your effort and your taking the time to find info out for us. I would not expect blow by blow report from you, I know it is very hard and exhausting to do. I was in a few tournaments and I know how hectic it could be.
Since we cannot watch it here, any info is very appreciated. Thank you.
Usually YTT will have words like "yu" printed under the rail.
mariopatricio
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Having witnessed everything that happened on Day One, I believe that the verdict of some posters that the play of Dennis and Young was "sloppy all the way" is dead wrong.
Sure Yang missed some shots and Dennis scratched a few times and muffed a couple of kicks. And the racks were not breaking well for them.
But otherwise these two guys were awesome. Their shotmaking, position play and defense were superb. I thought I saw vividly in Day One why Dennis and Yang can take any other player today in a money game. And why most are afraid to face them.
Perhaps what misled those reporting the match to posters is the wretched commentary on the Solar Sports coverage. The analyst and the anchor don't know enough about the game and can't distinguish between tough and easy, great and routine. They reduce analysis to counting errors.
IMO, this match is living up to its billing as a great challenge match. And I have seen thousand of matches in my time. But of course, I could be wrong.
Sure Yang missed some shots and Dennis scratched a few times and muffed a couple of kicks. And the racks were not breaking well for them.
But otherwise these two guys were awesome. Their shotmaking, position play and defense were superb. I thought I saw vividly in Day One why Dennis and Yang can take any other player today in a money game. And why most are afraid to face them.
Perhaps what misled those reporting the match to posters is the wretched commentary on the Solar Sports coverage. The analyst and the anchor don't know enough about the game and can't distinguish between tough and easy, great and routine. They reduce analysis to counting errors.
IMO, this match is living up to its billing as a great challenge match. And I have seen thousand of matches in my time. But of course, I could be wrong.
i dont want to read every post but what is the score,anyone know.thanks
BlowFish said:
Thank you, I saw that he has chosen a Predator over a Samsara.
Can you watch this in Hong Kong?
I wonder if they sell the DVD later?
From what I saw on Cuycuy's site, this looks more like a tournament/exhibition than a money match.
I think it would be more interesting if they would let them play as if they were really gambling, with money posted on the light, side betting going on the side in front of everyone, backers/manager sitting on the sideline sweating the matches...etc.
May be it can take place in a pool hall, dark and seedy, with lots of smokes...
I dont know, for the first time two of the best money players to match up over $15,000, this looks kind of like a regular tournament. Also, $15,000 is not their money, so it is more of a ego and pride match up, then a match whereas the player may choke because of how much money is at stake. They are just playing for $5000 actually. I am sure $5,000 is not like something they have never gambled for. To see who is the best money player, should they be playing in a money match setting, rather than a tournament setting?
Now, if they have to each come up with $100,000 themselves, post it and gamble in front of everyone and have it filmed as a reality show, that would be more exciting in my opinon.
Going back to Yang vs Orcullo in this format, I think it is really 50-50 even without the spread. Orcullo has the home court advantage, but Yang could be more used to playing in front of lots of people and TV in a tournament format.
Orcullo is a great money player, may be the greatest--but he is definitly not the greatest tournament player, especially in front of TV and a big crowd. To put him in a TV tournament setting could be a handicap in a way. I personally think Yang is more experienced and comfortable in front of TV camera and a big crowd--once he is dailed in, he will be able to perform to his usual top form.
Richard
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According to reports on a Taiwanese Newspaper, who have sent one of its reporters to the arena, Orcullo and Yang have tied the match 8 times, with 8 time outs each during the first day.
This first session was estimated to last about 2.5 hours, but actually took over 330 minutes, which is 5.5 hours, with a score of 20-19 for Orcullo.
Yang was very hungry during his after match interview, " I have never played a match this long. I could barely see anything at the end!"
Over 300 spectators were present even though it was not a public holiday nor a weekend.
Both Orcullo and Yang commented on the rack being too loose in the first half of the match. They both agreed that this was the reason why the first part of the game went quite unsmoothly.
"Orcullo is in very good shape in my opinion. He was also really taking his time. I am not suprised that I am behind after the first day, and I am glad that I am staying very close to him. The second day is the key. I will practise some more after I eat. My goal is to try to expand the difference in the score tomorrow, so I can have an easier match going into the third day." Yang said.
About $20,000 US side bet was estimated to have been placed before the match was commenced. Both Yang and Orcullo had about the same number of bets.
"I enjoy this format, everyone is very serious." Yang commented, "but it is really exhausting. Other than practising in the past, I have never played one single match for such a long time before."
(courtesy of Mr. Chen of Apple-1.com, translated by Richard Chan)
This first session was estimated to last about 2.5 hours, but actually took over 330 minutes, which is 5.5 hours, with a score of 20-19 for Orcullo.
Yang was very hungry during his after match interview, " I have never played a match this long. I could barely see anything at the end!"
Over 300 spectators were present even though it was not a public holiday nor a weekend.
Both Orcullo and Yang commented on the rack being too loose in the first half of the match. They both agreed that this was the reason why the first part of the game went quite unsmoothly.
"Orcullo is in very good shape in my opinion. He was also really taking his time. I am not suprised that I am behind after the first day, and I am glad that I am staying very close to him. The second day is the key. I will practise some more after I eat. My goal is to try to expand the difference in the score tomorrow, so I can have an easier match going into the third day." Yang said.
About $20,000 US side bet was estimated to have been placed before the match was commenced. Both Yang and Orcullo had about the same number of bets.
"I enjoy this format, everyone is very serious." Yang commented, "but it is really exhausting. Other than practising in the past, I have never played one single match for such a long time before."
(courtesy of Mr. Chen of Apple-1.com, translated by Richard Chan)
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