Yapp banned from WPA tournament?

Straightpool_99 said:
You'd be surprised.


Oh, and additionally, due to the enourmous amount of unchecked power these officials have (within the small sport, not in the real world), there has been a number of "Weinstein" like incidents that remain unreported. If you are a somewhat attractive girl with talent in a cue sport in Europe, I wish you luck. Hopefully one of the officials doesn't take an interest in you...I know one girl who was traumatized this way.
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Window’ Open flagged this, here’s a mainstream press article on the Singapore ban with some choice quotes from the WPA president about using players as pawns for political purposes.

www.straitstimes.com

Dry break for Cuesports Singapore and players after international ban

This has stemmed from a dispute between World Pool-Billiard Association and event promoters Matchroom. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.
www.straitstimes.com www.straitstimes.com

Apparently the WPA and WCBS was too busy to respond to the player’s petition.
 
The way I read it, the Singapore federation is banned, not individual players. Yapp and others could play under another country's federation? I wonder how that could work.
 
Any participation of a federation player in non federation events can be banned. Its clearly in the rules.

If players don't like the rules leave. Its that simple.
 
skogstokig said:
this is the event that caused the ban:

www.youtube.com

Peter Gilchrist v Steve Mifsud | Final | Singapore Open Billiards Championship 2022

Singapore Open Billiards Championship 2022Finals
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

it's not snooker or english pool, but a very niche carom game called english billiards. although played on a snooker table, few snooker players have played it or even heard about it
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Seems like a good reason for a perpetual and worldwide ban on all pool players from Singapore.
 
All players signed agreements. There is no changing agreements. This discussion is moot.
 
buckshotshoey said:
The way I read it, the Singapore federation is banned, not individual players. Yapp and others could play under another country's federation? I wonder how that could work.
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I think the pool players from Taiwan (or Chinese Taipei) are often under the Olympic flag. Here's a general article:

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skogstokig said:
no takers?
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All players have to do is honor the agreement they signed. If they didnt know how to read the agreement, its their fault for signing.

This is how rules, federations and governance works.
 
skogstokig said:
this is the event that caused the ban:

www.youtube.com

Peter Gilchrist v Steve Mifsud | Final | Singapore Open Billiards Championship 2022

Singapore Open Billiards Championship 2022Finals
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

it's not snooker or english pool, but a very niche carom game called english billiards. although played on a snooker table, few snooker players have played it or even heard about it
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This is how my father warms up for a game of snooker.
It used to be a very well-known game, with some absolutely insanely talented players... Like 40+ years ago
I was trying to explain this game to my friend the other day, and it flew straight over his head.

Kind have to agree with a contract is a contract... Get a better prescription for the glasses if you can't read the small (or large) print.
 
Flakeandrun said:
... It used to be a very well-known game, with some absolutely insanely talented players... Like 40+ years ago ...
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I would describe the game as mostly dying when Walter Lindrum took the Championship trophy back to Australia in the 1930s and told the challengers they would have to come there to play for it. Since nobody could beat him, that was the end of it. Lindrum died in 1960 with most of the interest left in India. A youth program was started in England (in a county well away from London) that produced multiple champions. It is amazing what can be accomplished with such a program.

Walter Lindrum was perhaps the best cue sports athlete who ever lived, and most pool/snooker/carom players have never heard of him. He played so well, they had to change the rules to keep him from winning. His grave:

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Walter
 
Bob Jewett said:
I would describe the game as mostly dying when Walter Lindrum took the Championship trophy back to Australia in the 1930s and told the challengers they would have to come there to play for it. Since nobody could beat him, that was the end of it. Lindrum died in 1960 with most of the interest left in India. A youth program was started in England (in a county well away from London) that produced multiple champions. It is amazing what can be accomplished with such a program.

Walter Lindrum was perhaps the best cue sports athlete who ever lived, and most pool/snooker/carom players have never heard of him. He played so well, they had to change the rules to keep him from winning. His grave:

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Walter
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Yes, an absolute monster of the game! My grandad had a cue with his name on. I guess my knowledge is relating to all the pictures in my home area, and the way that my grandad would talk about it locally. It was still played, and had competitions regularly when my grandad was playing, and the pictures can be seen all over the walls of my local club. My dad still plays now as a warm-up, but there is no league or anything like that. I think there is still a small tournament with a handful of players competing yearly. Mostly guys competing in the snooker leagues there.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I would describe the game as mostly dying when Walter Lindrum took the Championship trophy back to Australia in the 1930s and told the challengers they would have to come there to play for it. Since nobody could beat him, that was the end of it. Lindrum died in 1960 with most of the interest left in India. A youth program was started in England (in a county well away from London) that produced multiple champions. It is amazing what can be accomplished with such a program.

Walter Lindrum was perhaps the best cue sports athlete who ever lived, and most pool/snooker/carom players have never heard of him. He played so well, they had to change the rules to keep him from winning. His grave:

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Walter
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Great post and Lindrum is listed in Byrnes books. This thread relates to Asian players specifically Singaporean players.

In Asia nobody knows who put the first stones in the Great Wall. Thats the type of culture the ACBS is projecting. A policy to protect the federation at all times must enforced. No one knows the names of the builders, this is the way.

The players are important for operational purposes but not historic reasons. The dynasty of WPA is the only name worth mentioning.
 
justnum said:
Great post and Lindrum is listed in Byrnes books. This thread relates to Asian players specifically Singaporean players.

In Asia nobody knows who put the first stones in the Great Wall. Thats the type of culture the ACBS is projecting. A policy to protect the federation at all times must enforced. No one knows the names of the builders, this is the way.

The players are important for operational purposes but not historic reasons. The dynasty of WPA is the only name worth mentioning.
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still no takers? tried with mommy?
 
justnum said:
All players signed agreements. There is no changing agreements. This discussion is moot.
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No the point is that those agreements and the WPA structure are bad for the sport. The WPA will have to change if it is going to survive.

Otherwise the top players will pick Matchroom over the WPA and the WPA events will be meaningless. That’s bad for the sport too.
 
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