I'm still not real sure a ref would have seen it. He'd have to have been in a peferct position staring straight at this area and even then might have not noticed that 'oscillation' . He wouldn't have the same view as that camera did. Easy to say all this stuff after the fact. I'm drifting this thread with this: Yapp is one the most stand-up guys on the WNT tour. He would have called this on himself if he felt it. For a bunch of butthurt keyboard kowboys to knock his credibility over this is pathetic.
Yapp winning, with a foul! Just like Maradona making a goal with his hands :D
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While this wasn't directed towards me, I think the better question is why are you doing this? Even with the benefit of being able to watch multiple replays in super slow motion, half the people don't believe any foul occurred at all, that's how microscopic and unbelievably light the contact with the nine was even if it did happen. So microscopic that Yapp clearly wouldn't have been able to feel it when the tip was hitting the cue ball at the same time, under the nerves and preoccupation with it being one of the last couple of balls for the US Open title and a hundred thousand dollar prize.
Yet here you are seemingly on a sworn mission to get a guy widely considered to be one of the most upstanding guys in pool publicly labeled as a cheater for a perceived foul so miniscule half the people don't even think it happened at all even after watching it over and over in slow motion. Its almost as if you have something personal against Yapp and have had it out for him and been waiting for something to come along with which to try to nail him to a cross for. Fess up, what did he do to you? Is it just because he beat one of your idols?
Well you got one thing right in the thread, Marcel is the worst ref in pool, or real close to it anyway, so incompetent he shouldn't be allowed to be reffing your local APA match much less a professional event. Dude has blown more obvious calls due to a lack of very basic knowledge than anybody else out there that I am aware of. This wasn't one of them though. Again, pretty good chance no foul even occurred at all, but even if it did he could hardly be faulted for failing to see live the one millionth of an inch nine ball movement that half the people can't agree even happened after watching super slow motion videos over and over.
The hilite reel shows no movement by contact. It does show the 9B moving left with after the stick is clear; much like a ball may drop into the pocket after sitting at the edge. What was Yapp supposed to feel?
I couldn’t read your wall of text but just read the first few sentences and from those I gathered that;
A player made a foul, the referee failed to call it, the player himself didn’t admit to it, the other player fell victim for it and lost a major title. But suddenly I am the bad guy?!! Okay good logic buddy
A player made a foul, the referee failed to call it, the player himself didn’t admit to it, the other player fell victim for it and lost a major title. But suddenly I am the bad guy?!! Okay good logic buddy
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Yes I see it. Without this replay I don't think a ref could honestly see it in real time.
I agree completely with your last paragraph tho. That guy is really bad and I know it for fact. I’ve made many posts about it with some live examples. The guy squints to identify a foul when there’s clusters.
In pool you can always identify a foul from the cue ball reaction alone! Honestly if you know pool well enough you know the behavior of the cue ball and its reaction. And if that reaction is weird then it’s a foul. I’m not only talking about double hits btw. This method also solid for when there are two object balls close and you want to know which ball was hit first. You can always tell by what the cue ball does next or how it moves. It’s very clear
And Marcel is very very very bad at it… he squints at the two balls trying to see with his eyes which was hit first. Which is the wrong way of doing it man.
This pretty much is a dead-on bullseye. Agree 100%.