Your Favorite Cue Specs

Weight: 18.something
Balance point: 18.8 from butt end
Shaft weight: 108 grams or about 3.8oz I believe
Taper: conical
Tip diameter: 11.75mm
 
drivermaker said:
In another thread about Kikel cues, somebody responded and said that his had a 21 1/2" balance point and he hated it. I guess it just goes to show that one man's poison can be the nectar from the Gods for another.
I don't know what the weight of his cue was, but that is one hell of a forward balance point. I don't know if Kikel bores out the nose of his butt and adds weight down there or what, but unless you have a pretty heavy shaft I'd like to know how it was done, especially if the cue weighed around 20 oz.

I probably would have LOVED that cue. Hell, I wish I'd have known it was up for sale.

Here are my specs that just give me the most feel that work perfectly for my tempo and timing. It's taken a lot of years to figure it out, but these are the weights and balance points of the cue that I use most and how it's distributed.

Cue Weight - 19.7 oz.

Butt Weight - 14.9 oz.

Shaft Weight - 4.8 oz.

Balance point from end of butt - 20 1/2"

Balance point from end of wrap - 3 1/2"


For many, the weight of my shaft would be high, but it works and feels great.
Are any of you adamant about your prefences or have a particular like?


I fond of these spec;

Butt Diameter at cap: 1.25"
Joint Diameter: .846"
Weight: 15.1 oz.
Shaft at ferrule: 13.2 MM
Weight: 4.2 oz.
Balance point from butt capp: approx. 20"
 
zeeder said:
I don't know which is my favorite but here are the specs of my cues:

Gilbert
Length: 60"
Butt: 14.8 oz
Shaft – break: 4.25 oz
Shaft – play: 4.3 oz
Balance: 20.25” – 33.75% from rear

Hey Zeeder,
Let me know if you ever want to part with this Gilbert...nice balance and weight for me.

That is the biggest complaint I have right now with my Schon, it's too butt heavy with my mods adding more than I thought to the rear of the cue. It was 19.5 before I added the rear joint, now it's 20.1...so quite a difference. I prefer a forward balanced cue, somewhere around 19.5 to 20 inches with around a 4.5 ounce shaft. Do you think I could have a Predator custom weighted to be heavier? I know they are hollow on the end, but maybe add some weight toward the joint end? I also want to get away from the SS joint, as I really like a 3/8-10 or radial much better. I hate the way I can't roll the cue ball 6 inches with my Predator cause I can't feel it come off the tip.

*sigh*

Looking more and more like I may have to have a custom made from scratch with the rear extensions so that I can get a better weighted and balanced cue.

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Do you think I could have a Predator custom weighted to be heavier? I know they are hollow on the end, but maybe add some weight toward the joint end? I also want to get away from the SS joint, as I really like a 3/8-10 or radial much better. I hate the way I can't roll the cue ball 6 inches with my Predator cause I can't feel it come off the tip.

Shorty


Why don't you consider the universal shaft instead of a Predator for more weight/forward balance. If you're a deflection freak, get the one that's made more for that with 12.75 mm tip.

If you get away from a SS joint...how do you propose that the cue is going to be made for more forward balance especially if you have to use extensions? I'd like to hear your ideas...
 
drivermaker said:
Why don't you consider the universal shaft instead of a Predator for more weight/forward balance. If you're a deflection freak, get the one that's made more for that with 12.75 mm tip.

If you get away from a SS joint...how do you propose that the cue is going to be made for more forward balance especially if you have to use extensions? I'd like to hear your ideas...

Thats a good idea there with the Universal shaft...may have to get me one and see.

Not sure really on getting away from SS and still being forward balanced. I know you can add weight to the shaft somewhat with a metal insert. Also maybe an ebony forearm would work???

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Hey Zeeder,
Let me know if you ever want to part with this Gilbert...nice balance and weight for me.

That is the biggest complaint I have right now with my Schon, it's too butt heavy with my mods adding more than I thought to the rear of the cue. It was 19.5 before I added the rear joint, now it's 20.1...so quite a difference. I prefer a forward balanced cue, somewhere around 19.5 to 20 inches with around a 4.5 ounce shaft. Do you think I could have a Predator custom weighted to be heavier? I know they are hollow on the end, but maybe add some weight toward the joint end? I also want to get away from the SS joint, as I really like a 3/8-10 or radial much better. I hate the way I can't roll the cue ball 6 inches with my Predator cause I can't feel it come off the tip.

*sigh*

Looking more and more like I may have to have a custom made from scratch with the rear extensions so that I can get a better weighted and balanced cue.

Shorty

Sorry short man, I don't have any plans to sell any of my custom cues anytime soon. I too like the forward balance of the cue, although I have to say that I'm little perplexed as to how it's so forward balanced with the construction. I guess it's the shaft weight as compared to the total weight of the cue. Also, I probably wouldn't sell it for any less than I paid for it so you might as well call Andy and have him make you one to your specifications!
 
drivermaker said:
WOW!...Now this is a guy that knows his specs!!! I don't think I've ever seen anyone so exact on the THICKNESS of their butt. BRKNRUN...are you making note of this??


Noted....

I have actually sold both my cues, and am having a Jacoby Custom made. It will be about another 10 weeks before it comes in.

Butt 1.25
Shaft 12.85
Weight 19.1

Its going to be a custom cue. I used the ML3 and a friends custom Jacoby as a base design and changed the points rings and colors, but it will have the 3/8 10 pin, and a more forward balance and a slimline grip area...I believe the 1.25 is at the butt end and will taper slightly at the grip area...I was told the grip will be the same specs as my friends and that would be perfect....(I will know in 10 weeks)
 
Here is the cue I am having made to my specs. I expect delivery in about 1.5 weeks.

Cue Length 58"
Weight 18 to 18.5 oz
Balance from butt 18"
Butt diameter 1.190"
Joint diameter .845"
Shaft 13 MM
 
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MFB said:
Here is the cue I am having made to my specs. I expect delivery in about 1.5 weeks.


Butt diameter 1.190"

Shaft 13 MM


Is that super narrow??? (1.190)

I am still wondering what "standard" is, and where 1.25 falls.

Is 1.25 narrow or standard???
 
Favorite Cue Specs

<JACOBY>

Length: 58.5"
Butt : 14.52 oz
JOINT:.844" BAL POINT:1.028" BUTT END:1.225"
Shaft: 4.08 oz 12.9mm
Shaft: 4.05 oz 12.8mm
Balance: 19.5” – 33.3% from rear

This cue has what I would describe as a slight forward balance. It's Ok, would like slightly more forward balance, but I'm getting used to it. I do like the feel of the linen wrap, never played with one on a consistent basis.


<BRUNSWICK DOUBLE BUTTERFLY CONVERSION>

Length: 58.7"
Butt: 15.4 oz
JOINT:.759" BAL POINT:.971" BUTT END:1.229"
Shaft: 3.49 oz DIA: 12.7mm
Shaft: 3.53 oz DIA: 12.7mm
Balance: 17” – 28.9% from rear

This cue's forward balance is my preference, I played with it for a year+, but because of its age/rarity, I've started using my Jacoby as my main cue. One thing that I find interesting about it, is its very firm hit. The joint is some kind of cream colored plastic to shaft wood no collar. I could use it as a break cue, that's how hard it hits.

Regards,
Ernie
 
BRKNRUN said:
Is that super narrow??? (1.190)

I am still wondering what "standard" is, and where 1.25 falls.

Is 1.25 narrow or standard???


It is smaller than the average, but it is what I like. I believe 1.25 is standard.
 
Cue length: 59

Balance point from wrap: 3 1/4

Balance point from end of butt cap: 19

Tip diameter: 12 1/4

Weight: 20.6
 
BRKNRUN said:
Is that super narrow??? (1.190)

I am still wondering what "standard" is, and where 1.25 falls.

Is 1.25 narrow or standard???


I don't think 1.25 is as narrow as your Schon was, nor will it be as narrow as you seemed to want it. You might want to email or call Schon for their standard specs on butt size.
 
drivermaker said:
I don't think 1.25 is as narrow as your Schon was, nor will it be as narrow as you seemed to want it. You might want to email or call Schon for their standard specs on butt size.

Actually the Schon I had was slightly but noticably bigger than every other Schon I have held....(I don't know why) . I have a email in to Schon asking about thier diameters.

Anyone know what Schon uses for thier "standard" diameter....I am guessing 1.25
 
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