Funny story, I called the distributor and a woman answered. I told her I was interested in possibly carrying this product and she said let me get Nick he can help you out. So I chat with this guy for about 10 mins when I realize I'm talking to Nick Varner. What a down to earth nice guy. I seriously about crapped my pants, I remember reading billiard mags as a kid and seeing Nick freakin Varner on ESPN. It was cool, at any rate the product works great and I have some in my case, but I don't sand shafts anymore.