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fuggles said:
As it happened people around the room, and someone on the mic were commenting about how there were 2 "low" skill level players in the final. It was a rare occation. I'm pretty sure if we look back on who has won it wouldn't be a 601 rated player. I believe Chad won last year. I don't know Eric, but I think it is safe to say he had the tournament of his life. Also he was fortunate that Chad, Victor and Alex had to play each other in the first few rounds. I've been very bad and pretty good. Last event was pretty good. Played well in Scotch, Singles and Teams. Added 10 pts to my fargo and I have 1000 robustness. :)

Edit: just looked up last year, Damian beat Chad in the finals. Double dipped. Ouch.
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Eric beat Victor 6-4 in the third place match after losing the chair. He didn't dodge him.

This was the first year players from 600 to 625 were pushed to the elite. Last year they would have been in the platinum but the idea I think was to increase the size of the field in the elite. So last year both the finalists wouldn't even have been in the elite division unless they decided to "play up". It was pretty interesting actually the way it played out but also most of the really heavy hitters weren't there. Randy Baker may have had the highest fargo in the event.
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How to Judge SPLIT HITS … Everything You Need to Know

GideonF
dr_dave said:
Good point. Refs need practice making these types of calls to become better at making correct calls live. Dedicated training with guidance concerning what to look for and where best to stand would also help.




I do discuss this. I think I made it clear that unless super slow motion video is available to clearly show thin-hit contact on the first ball, it is possible that the thin-hit tangent-line judgement technique will result in the wrong answer or rare occasion. But the "wrong answer" is the "right answer" if no super slow motion video replay is available. I know this is a tough one to accept, but I think it is a necessary evil (unless people use their smartphones for slo-mo video, or unless tournament organizers install high-speed cameras above every table for video-replay review).
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This an interesting question. Is it better to call the foul when 99 percent of the time it is correct but 1 percent of the time it’s not a foul, or is it better to say “on thin hits like this I cannot rule out a good hit so I can’t call a foul”?

One could argue that regulation 25 supports the latter.

25. REFEREE UNCERTAINTY
If the referee cannot determine whether a player fouled, the shot will be considered legal.

It’s kinda like the accidental miscue ruling. Even though we know that the vast majority of accidental miscues involve the CB hitting the shaft, we can’t say so with certainty because in rare instances there is no contact. So it’s not called a foul unless the contact with the shaft is clear.
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(Un)Popular Opinion on Fargo Rate

alphadog
ShootingArts said:
I think Mike was fair for several reasons. Yes, he protected his weaker players from an unknown sneaking in. But he also put you on the borderline so if you did prove to deserve to be in the 525 under class you would quickly move there the next time your fargo rating was adjusted. Had he put you in at 600+ then you would have been screwed long term. The company you were in and the one pocket red flag were indications to be cautious too.

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My FR is higher then 525 and what Mike did was correct. My point is how much difference there often is within the different levels/flights in tournaments.
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