pros as all should learn, that you hit the shot in such a way for you it gives you the best chance of winning the game.
not the best chance of making the shot.

they bank short of the old standard in and out angles that is the basis for starting your thinking.

but after playing enough you have hit enough banks to just know where to hit on the speed you are going to use
you still have to visualize your shot line not just the spot to hit.
just like cutting a ball in you dont have to measure the line you just know the spot you need to hit and do it.

GideonF said:

There are many players who only play on Diamonds (Blue Labels). So to them the Diamonds bank correctly and the other tables bank long. This would be especially so for players who don’t use any system and bank by feel and experience.

I would be curious to hear if great bankers who grew up in the Diamond era (such as Fedor) think of adjusting to a Diamond banking short or just think of that as the default.

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I thought that too in years past. But when these modern players play on a GC or a Predator they play jam up. I think even though players today are used to Dimaonds more than other brands, the angles on other brands are still more intuitive to them. That's my guess, anyway

Also of note all the European players play on normal tables in Europe on the Eurotour.

dr_dave said:

Good point. I good player needs to be able to adjust to any table conditions, but check out the video. Even the Blue Labels with brand new and slick cloth in a dry environment bank shorter than most other tables. The Red Label Diamonds were (and are, in many places) downright ridiculous, especially with broken-in and dirty cloth in a humid environment.

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There are many players who only play on Diamonds (Blue Labels). So to them the Diamonds bank correctly and the other tables bank long. This would be especially so for players who don’t use any system and bank by feel and experience.

I would be curious to hear if great bankers who grew up in the Diamond era (such as Fedor) think of adjusting to a Diamond banking short or just think of that as the default.

dendweller said:

I just saw one on the Mike Gulyassi site. Starts at 1200 and goes up from there. Little out of my price range.

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You saw a Crical for $1200.00? You can find them on Amazon for less than $200. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post.

skip100 said:

Meanwhile, on the pga tour today they set up a “par 4” that the final groups were hitting pin high with 3 woods that have a sweet spot the size of what used to be the entire clubface in the early Tiger era.

Golf has gone too far in one direction and pool has gone too far in the other. Golf has dumbed down the game for pros while creating no benefit for amateurs (average handicaps are stable over decades) while pool has made it more boring to watch at the pro level and harder to play at the amateur level. In the Diamond world amateurs are essentially forced to play on barboxes if they want to make any balls.

Runouts are fun. Watching pros duck shots because they are too hard is not fun.

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Also, allot of em are protecting their wallet, especially those w/o sponsorship, which is the majority.

those house balls are a fair bit smaller/lighter- 1 thru 9 anyway and the cue ball is even smaller than any of the other balls, than a regular set from being played so much and going down the gullies.
and its more humid than at home. and they all bank short with any speed.

SA96 said:

Bergman has been very sloppy vs Martinez.

Down 6-4.

If he loses this, he has to face the Polish killer Wojech to qualify.

On a separate point, Predator need to change the rule about the ball being cleaned by the referee.

The shot clock should not be stopped!

Some players are using it as a tactic to gain more time.

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Are you sure it stops the clock?

Here is what I could find on the web (it is from the Puerto Rico event last year):

Shot Clock
Tournament Management may implement a shot clock in any match at any point of time at its discretion. The time control for the shot
clock is as follows: 30 seconds per shot, one extension of 30 seconds per rack, extra 30 seconds for the first shot after the break. The
“time” signal will be announced by the referee or sound automatically when 10 seconds are left. By default, time will not be paused for
any assistance with bridge or cue ball cleaning. The referee may decide to stop or reset time; in which case they will announce the
amount of time left when the time resumes

Something happened on the couple games before the shootout that there were not commentators for about 10-15 min, just the sound of the balls and the crowd. IDK why, but that made it more exciting to me during that period.

ghlenz said:

My concern with the open box concept coming from Amazon is that there is nothing protecting me from getting a set of balls that were purchased by another customer who bought the Amarmith balls, took them out of the box, replaced them with a cheap set of new balls and sent them back to Amazon for a refund. While this may not be likely, it is possible and there is virtually no way of knowing. With a sealed package, I am as close to certain as I can be that I am getting what I paid for. And I am absolutely willing to pay more for that certainty.

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There are a lot of reputable suppliers... Seyberts being one of them.

Kris_b1104 said:

That was a treat to watch, super exciting and kept me on the edge of my seat. Love how the crowd erupted after the shootout. This is how all mixed doubles matches should be.

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Agree.

Watching the Predator Event this week has just reminded me how much superior 10 ball is to 8 ball.

10 ball exposes the weaknesses of players.