I know the OP is talking about 3C, but I've had this happen in pool a few times, shooting at the wrong OB. I've been on both sides of it. A couple times I kept my mouth shut and then called foul. A couple times I've said "stop, you're shooting the wrong ball". Both scenarios have also happened to me when I was the shooter shooting at the wrong ball.

Today (and probably the past 15 years), I'd tell my opponent they're on the wrong ball. When I called the fouls, I was much younger.

In the finals of a 3C world championship, I would probably still inform my opponent. Unless there is some obscure rule in the unsportsmanlike conduct section that prevents an opponent from doing anything that would "lessen his chances to win".

I wouldn't fault either decision by the player in the chair. Both decisions are valid, IMO.

Black-Balled said:

Me too.

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You are Not Really saying anything!

Post Exactly what You believe what the rule is re: shooting wrong ball in UMB 3C rules.

You may get Your way!

The table will tighten up once the cloth breaks in.

mr3cushion said:

I'll Bet on what I posted!

Post up!

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Me too.

IDK - but a very nice clean simple conversion and a very nice hand made cue case - is this for sale on the site?

dr_dave said:

Yes. The cushions are still the standard Olhausen AccuFast.

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Did you notice any difference in play with the "beefier" rails?? I am assuming the new rails are heavier than the originals.

Cro-mags
That was a funny day.

Black-Balled said:

Would you not bet that's not not how it was originally written or not?

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I'll Bet on what I posted!

Post up!

Black-Balled said:

When.

It isn't clear whether you are saying the cb got 3 rails before contacting the third ball.

It did not.

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After watching it carefully, I see the most instantaneous of possible contact which would be 3 of course BUT there is no ball shadow under the cushion until the ball comes to rest. So you are correct or it is doctored. Fact is the ball is stable as a top. There is no wobble, just a magical change of direction.

That had to be a fun time ! When a group of top players are brought together for a event then darn few show up for it .

When Shane and Earl came to Billings MT it was a packed house completely sold out until Sunday afternoon was when I showed up and got to meet them both .

Earl asked where I was from and was surprised that I drove 150 miles one way and a good part of the way was in a blizzard just to be there ha ha .
Then in a heavily populated area there's little or no attendance .

Yes I love the game called pool ha ha

mr3cushion said:

Here's what I'll do, with You or Anyone in this thread.

I'll Bet a Minimum of $500.00 USD on this statement!

"A UMB Referee 'Can Not inform/Advise' the Shooter that they are about to 'Shoot the Wrong Ball'!

"The Opponent, if He chooses 'May or May Not' inform the player before He shoots!"

Any takers?

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Would you not bet that's not not how it was originally written or not?

Here is a playlist of videos from it

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It doesn't mash the nose but it clearly grazed the face of the cushion and changed direction.

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When.

It isn't clear whether you are saying the cb got 3 rails before contacting the third ball.

It did not.

JPB2 said:

It didn’t. It is kind of interesting that we are watching the same video and seeing different things. There is always a gap between the nose of the cushion and the spinning ( wobbling/ rolling off) ball.

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I see what you see as far as the nose goes, There is also a clear rebound at the yellow.

Watched the ball carefully there is no shadow on the cushion when the ball changes direction as there is when it comes to rest.
That the ball changed direction anyway make me think forgery.

Most likely a cue made after or around the time they split, the 5/16x18 pin is the same style pin used by TAD, RB, Joss, JW, and Schick during the same time period. so the pin does not make it an import, the forearm is looks nothing like any import of the same time period. The MOP dots look to have been added after the fact, could have been done by anybody. my .02