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Bob Jewett said:
When it comes to a lot of things in cue sports, your typical UKer is as stupid as a stump. Just look at the comments from Darren and Karl on the frozen ball shot that Pongers played.

Eight ball was originally promoted by BBCCo (Brunswick-Balke-Collender Company) as BBCCo Pocket Billiards about 1908. Here is their 1914 rule book -- see page 44 or so... It used reds and yellows, so the US was ahead of the UK for that, too. I think the main point was to sell special sets of balls, but customers were mostly too smart for them.


On the other hand, if you look at the Facebook pool groups, some USers are not far behind on stumpiness.
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I couldn't believe the commentators were unaware of the frozen ball rule! That's something I'd expect from an APA 4
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Pro Pocket Size TOO Small for 9 Ball

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yes pro pool is more like a chess match than before with the new rules and equipment.

i would watch a good chess match but no one puts them on tv, i wonder why? and i cant name more than one or two of the worlds best players.
right now none.

and in chess the best player almost always wins. so you know the outcome before the game is even played.
just like when i match up for bigger money at pool.
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Pro Pocket Size TOO Small for 9 Ball

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GideonF said:
To me pool halls definitely should not go to 4” pockets or even close. Those tables are playable on the WNT because (a) you have elite players playing; and (b) the balls and cloth are brand new. If you got Filler and Gorst to play on 4” pockets at your local pool hall with cloth with 6 months of play and dirty balls, the game would look like one pocket. I see some balls slide in on the WNT that wouldn’t go on the 4.5” Diamonds I play on with old cloth and balls.
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My club has two tables with 4" pockets and I can assure you that the pros that visit have no trouble making the game look effortless on those tables. It definitely does not look like one pocket. You're giving way too much credit to a measly 0.25" difference.
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Pro Pocket Size TOO Small for 9 Ball

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I’ve posted about pocket size a lot and what Iike. If you have a home pool table, put 5.5” corner pockets if you wanted.
It’s for your personal pleasure. You can put in 4.25” pockets. When it is your table, install as big or small as you prefer.

Personally, 5” CP seem big but for some players, maybe 4.75” is better suited instead of 4.5” for a home table. Pool
room operators have to decide what to offer. It seems 4.5” is becoming more common with so many Diamond tables
populating pool rooms. Sierra Billiards, where I mostly play, the 9’ tables are evenly split with 4.25” and 4.5” CP sizes.
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Who is Jesus Atencio? Find out in Billiards Digest (April 2026)

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Dimeball said:
All true, but, I'd still prefer him on the MC team than the other picks. Europe is many countries, Asia is many countries, I see no reason why we can't have all The Americas, Canada, and Mexico, just saying... LOL
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Yes, Jesus Atencio and fellow young South American Garson Martinez both deserve Mosconi consideration.
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