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What’s the worst cue you’ve ever bought?

M
I have to add another cue. I am not including cues that were POS with bad shafts and warped butts. There are plenty of them. I am talking about cues that you could not play the game with. Ray Schuler started making some pool cues.

He made me one and you could not play with it. It was deceptive. At first it felt good. You could cinch shots make long tough straight ins but you could not move the cue ball with any control.
His billiard cue theory did not translate to a pool cue.
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What’s the worst cue you’ve ever bought?

mr3cushion
stevelomako said:
In Detroit back in the late 70’s there was a Gus Szamboti that had at least a half dozen owners in a month that I know of personally, myself being one.

No one could play with it at all. It was a jinxy cue to say the least. Weirdest shit anyone ever saw. Nice looking cue, no one made money on it, it just kept getting sold and sold and sold. It was like there was a Gypsy curse on it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Did Mike ever own it! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
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Irish linen

RidgeRaider
dendweller said:
I don't agree. To me irish linen is slippery. I get that some people like it like that but I like tacky. For someone that prefers and built their game on a tacky grip, having a slippery grip is a hindrance. Probably works the other way around too.

I'd guess there are also people it just doesn't matter too but with some people it's far more than a hill of beans.
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I think it depends on often you play with one cue or style of cue.

I make cues, so I am constantly playing with new cues I make. I don't just pick it up, test whack a few balls and say it's good. I take my new cues to league and put em through matches. I have no trouble winning with a wrapless, leather wrap, or any of the flavor of linen wraps (double press, starched, waxed, scotch guard, sanded, roughed).

I chalk this up to never using the same cue more than a match or two in a row. I always have a new cue in my hands with a different length, weight, grip, taper. After doing this for a while, you could hand me a mop handle I probably wouldn't notice it isn't a pool cue.

Then there's my old timer buddies who have been using the same cue for the last 40 years, and it doesn't matter what cue I hand them, how much money it costed, or what materials it has, they cannot play even a single rack with it. Creatures of habit and comfort.
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HOW DO WE LEARN ??

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Siz said:
Sure. There is a lot published, but this paper is good, giving reviews and meta analyses of previously published research: Superiority of external attentional focus for motor performance and learning: Systematic reviews and meta-analyses. Highlights from the abstract below.

As you will see, the research shows that focusing what you want the balls to do ('External Focus' or 'EF') works better than focusing on what your body has to do to make it happen, how and where to hit the cue ball ('Internal Focus' or 'IF'). This is true both for experts wanting to play well ('performance' of those with high 'skill expertise') and for non-experts trying to learn the game ('retention learning' - reproducing what you were practicing yesterday - 'transfer learning' - practicing one type of shot improves the way you perform a different, but similar, shot).

From the Abstract:

"... We report the results of comprehensive meta-analyses that address the impact of an external focus (EF, on intended movement effects) versus internal focus (IF, on movements of body parts) of attention on the performance and learning of motor skills. ... The EF condition was more effective than the IF condition for performance... retention learning, ... and transfer learning

.... neither age group, health status, or skill level, nor their two-way interactions, moderated the ES differences between EF and IF in performance, retention, and transfer models...

... A secondary analysis ...that examined the effects of EF versus IF on electromyographic outcomes of motor performance also indicated that EF was associated with more efficient neuromuscular processing

... performance measured by behavioral outcomes was found to be more effective when a more distal, rather than proximal, EF was used

Overall, the meta-analytic results are consistent with prior narrative reviews and indicate that an external focus is superior to an internal focus whether considering tests of motor performance or learning, and regardless of age, health condition, and level of skill expertise."
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thanks for the link
got me to do some research
reminds me of jeff galloways book inner game of tennis
teaching newbies "bounce- hit"
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Max Eberle on people who play on barboxes "Pool players need to grow some balls"

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I couldn't agree more.

Billy Jr Ussery comments on the video "Bar table pool and handicap tournaments and leagues are a big part of why a Americans can’t compete on the world stage anymore…"
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I get the point that he's trying to make, but it's not the whole story. You might as well blame badminton and pickleball for not turning out professional tennis players--and that is also with the assumption that (some) players of the two former games are training to become tennis pros.
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What’s the worst cue you’ve ever bought?

M
I think I read this whole thread. Did anyone mention any of the new cf cues? They from what I see seem to be pretty consistent in quality and play. Am I wrong?

For my answer to this thread I am sad to say a Gus Szamboti. He made me a number of cues over the years but this one cue a Rambow style four points cue was like the one another poster described.

Beautiful but played what can only be described as dead. I hated it and everyone who wanted to buy it hated it also after playing with it for an hour. I did finally sell it at a tournament and never saw it again.
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