Power Stroke Drill.

JoeyA

JoeyA

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This is a drill that you can practice and it will help you to develop a power stroke. Shoot this shot from both sides of the table. You will most likely be better at this drill from one side than the other. The object ball is precisely 3 balls off (or the third ball off of the side rail) of the side rail. The cue ball in on the head string spot.

The object is to pocket the object ball and see how far to the right (as in the diagram) you can get the cue ball to go.

Precise placement of the object ball and cue ball is the only way you can get consistency as moving the object ball an eighth of an inch one way or another can give far different results. Mark the table after carefully measuring 3 balls distance from the rail.

Let me know your score and how many twenties you can make in a half hour. This drill will help you to develop an accurate and powerful stroke .

If you have questions, fire away.

Also let me know what type of table you did the drill on.

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
This is a drill that you can practice and it will help you to develop a power stroke. Shoot this shot from both sides of the table. You will most likely be better at this drill from one side than the other. The object ball is precisely 3 balls off (or the third ball off of the side rail) of the side rail. The cue ball in on the head string spot.

The object is to pocket the object ball and see how far to the right (as in the diagram) you can get the cue ball to go.

Precise placement of the object ball and cue ball is the only way you can get consistency as moving the object ball an eighth of an inch one way or another can give far different results. Mark the table after carefully measuring 3 balls distance from the rail.

Let me know your score and how many twenties you can make in a half hour. This drill will help you to develop an accurate and powerful stroke .

If you have questions, fire away.

Also let me know what type of table you did the drill on.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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Diagram please. :)
 
Joey I think you need to give us all a little WEIght.


JoeyA said:
This is a drill that you can practice and it will help you to develop a power stroke. Shoot this shot from both sides of the table. You will most likely be better at this drill from one side than the other. The object ball is precisely 3 balls off (or the third ball off of the side rail) of the side rail. The cue ball in on the head string spot.

The object is to pocket the object ball and see how far to the right (as in the diagram) you can get the cue ball to go.

Precise placement of the object ball and cue ball is the only way you can get consistency as moving the object ball an eighth of an inch one way or another can give far different results. Mark the table after carefully measuring 3 balls distance from the rail.

Let me know your score and how many twenties you can make in a half hour. This drill will help you to develop an accurate and powerful stroke .

If you have questions, fire away.

Also let me know what type of table you did the drill on.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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To me it looks impossible to score a 20 unless you cheat the pocket to the point where the OB grazes the long rail on its way in. Therefore this is only partly a test of your power stroke, and partly a test of how forgiving your pockets are.

But it does look like an interesting drill. I'll give it a try next time I'm at a table.

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
To me it looks impossible to score a 20 unless you cheat the pocket to the point where the OB grazes the long rail on its way in. Therefore this is only partly a test of your power stroke, and partly a test of how forgiving your pockets are.

But it does look like an interesting drill. I'll give it a try next time I'm at a table.

-Andrew
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I shoot this shot on a tight pocketed Diamond 9 footer FWIW. It is truly a stroke builder and will teach you what you need to know about draw, sidespin, alignment, follow through, smooth accleration and determination.

JoeyA
 
Joey, this is one of those shots that the size table will make a BIG difference in what you can do. I have a valley barbox with 4 1/8" pockets. Trying this shot on there, I can draw back to the scratch. With and without hitting the rail.

P.S.- How many points is that??:)
 
Andrew Manning said:
To me it looks impossible to score a 20 unless you cheat the pocket to the point where the OB grazes the long rail on its way in. Therefore this is only partly a test of your power stroke, and partly a test of how forgiving your pockets are.

But it does look like an interesting drill. I'll give it a try next time I'm at a table.

-Andrew
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Andrew: I'm going to tell you something that will probably give all the BCA instructors a mini-stroke because it flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

I do believe in the pendulum stroke- moving only from the elbow down, and following on through to the chest. However, for the stroke needed on this shot, while the aforementioned method MAY work for some, I toss it out the window. I stand straighter than normal, and stroke it with my whole arm. Keeping my arm and especially my wrist VERY loose. Standing straighter , I can generate more speed and a faster wrist snap. I hit as low as possible with a little right. The right helps keep the cb near the rail.

I liken it to 'throwing' a whip. You can just toss it out there, or you can break the sound barrier with it. It's all in the 'snap' and its timing. If you are real good, you don't even need to hit it hard. The snap of your wrist will generate enough speed to get tremendous spin on that cueball.

I'm sure people will pick this apart, but try it and see if it works for you. If it does- great! If not, well, if you couldn't do it before, you haven't lost anything.

You will really be able to feel the difference when you get the right action on it.
 
Neil said:
Andrew: I'm going to tell you something that will probably give all the BCA instructors a mini-stroke because it flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

I do believe in the pendulum stroke- moving only from the elbow down, and following on through to the chest. However, for the stroke needed on this shot, while the aforementioned method MAY work for some, I toss it out the window. I stand straighter than normal, and stroke it with my whole arm. Keeping my arm and especially my wrist VERY loose. Standing straighter , I can generate more speed and a faster wrist snap. I hit as low as possible with a little right. The right helps keep the cb near the rail.

I liken it to 'throwing' a whip. You can just toss it out there, or you can break the sound barrier with it. It's all in the 'snap' and its timing. If you are real good, you don't even need to hit it hard. The snap of your wrist will generate enough speed to get tremendous spin on that cueball.

I'm sure people will pick this apart, but try it and see if it works for you. If it does- great! If not, well, if you couldn't do it before, you haven't lost anything.

You will really be able to feel the difference when you get the right action on it.
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From studying Colin Colenso's breaking advice and using that as a starting point for experimenting with my own break, I agree with you completely that I can hit the ball much harder (more cue speed) from a more upright and forward-balanced stance with an intentional wrist snap than in my normal shooting position, which is a fairly "textbook" stance and stroke with my chin an inch off the cue, a pendulum stroke, and no more wrist movement than comes naturally with a relaxed grip.

However, I don't think this particular shot is about how hard you can hit the ball; it seems to me it's about spin/speed ratio and getting a vary accurate contact on the OB to play the shot as full as possible without missing it. Hitting as hard as I can, the CB slams into the rail before the draw has its full effect. I have to hit softer, but with maximum draw, to get my best results on this shot.

-Andrew
 
However, I don't think this particular shot is about how hard you can hit the ball; it seems to me it's about spin/speed ratio and getting a vary accurate contact on the OB to play the shot as full as possible without missing it.
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True, I really didn't mean to say that you have to hit it hard. You have to hit it fast. And by that, I mean similar to a whip action. You don't need the cueball going a 100mph down the table, you need 100mph of spin on it.

(How long before someone says you can't get it to 100mph? Which is just a number I threw out there.)
 
Here is another great stroke drill.
Pocket the object ball in the corner pocket and send the cue ball 3 rails for position.
Should be practiced on a 9ft table.
You can make it harder by moving the OB to the second diamond.

NO SIDE SPIN ONLY TOP SPIN


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Couple of 20's, some 1's, some 3's, some 5's, 1-2 10's, a TON of miscues, some missile launches, and I am starting to get a blister......I know..I'm a tenderfoot. Playing on a double shimmed 9' gandy sportsman that's slow as a turtle. Didn't keep total scores....another day. GREAT drill. I'm going to try this one some more!

td
 
Hey Joey.

Well, it was 1:30 am here when I tuned into this thread. Haven't had a cue in my hands for 3 days but decided to give it an initional whack.

With ZERO warm up, I just set up the shot and hit the 2 ball so badly it banked into the upper right corner!!! (-:

When I loosened up a little I shot a few more times and here was the deal.

I had plenty of juice to get the CB back to the 1 ball and continue on to the lower long rail.

I could probably lock on to the 1 a high percentage of the time...as well as the 2 point space.

Hitting the 3 would happen sometimes...the 5 rarely and above the 5 probably never.

I'll actually run it 30 times over the weekend and report back...but I predict a score of no better than 30 unless I catch one perf and land above the 5.

Good drill.

Thanks!

Jim
 
Neil said:
Joey, this is one of those shots that the size table will make a BIG difference in what you can do. I have a valley barbox with 4 1/8" pockets. Trying this shot on there, I can draw back to the scratch. With and without hitting the rail.

P.S.- How many points is that??:)
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Wow...you can't fit 2 balls centered between the points??

TIGHT!!! Were you mad at yourself when you bought that table???

(-:

Jim
 
av84fun said:
Hey Joey.

Well, it was 1:30 am here when I tuned into this thread. Haven't had a cue in my hands for 3 days but decided to give it an initional whack.

With ZERO warm up, I just set up the shot and hit the 2 ball so badly it banked into the upper right corner!!! (-:

When I loosened up a little I shot a few more times and here was the deal.

I had plenty of juice to get the CB back to the 1 ball and continue on to the lower long rail.

I could probably lock on to the 1 a high percentage of the time...as well as the 2 point space.

Hitting the 3 would happen sometimes...the 5 rarely and above the 5 probably never.

I'll actually run it 30 times over the weekend and report back...but I predict a score of no better than 30 unless I catch one perf and land above the 5.

Good drill.

Thanks!

Jim
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If I can hit the '20' I KNOW you can! Just remove all fragile objects from that side of the table and try to 'channel' Earl. :)

Seriously, it is a great stroke building tool. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

td
 
av84fun said:
Hey Joey.

Well, it was 1:30 am here when I tuned into this thread. Haven't had a cue in my hands for 3 days but decided to give it an initional whack.

With ZERO warm up, I just set up the shot and hit the 2 ball so badly it banked into the upper right corner!!! (-:

When I loosened up a little I shot a few more times and here was the deal.

I had plenty of juice to get the CB back to the 1 ball and continue on to the lower long rail.

I could probably lock on to the 1 a high percentage of the time...as well as the 2 point space.

Hitting the 3 would happen sometimes...the 5 rarely and above the 5 probably never.

I'll actually run it 30 times over the weekend and report back...but I predict a score of no better than 30 unless I catch one perf and land above the 5.

Good drill.

Thanks!

Jim
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I'll be sharing some "secrets" to this shot in the future but for now, I'm still looking to hear from others that have worked at it.

My 9 ball practice partner gave up on the drill as he could not put the stroke that was needed to the shot.

I can't wait to hear what Joe T has to say. I can just about imagine him throwing up a video with him hitting TWENTIES one after the other. :D

Grindz: A couple of 20's is pretty impressive. :cool:
JoeyA
 
Thanks, but I didn't say how many tries it took, or how many times I LAUNCHED whitey!! :-)

I'm going to work on it though. You've got me hooked. Power stroke was always one of my weaknesses, and now I'm determined to make it a percentage play. Keep posting those good drills.

td
 
av84fun said:
Hey Joey.

Well, it was 1:30 am here when I tuned into this thread. Haven't had a cue in my hands for 3 days but decided to give it an initional whack.

With ZERO warm up, I just set up the shot and hit the 2 ball so badly it banked into the upper right corner!!! (-:

When I loosened up a little I shot a few more times and here was the deal.

I had plenty of juice to get the CB back to the 1 ball and continue on to the lower long rail.

I could probably lock on to the 1 a high percentage of the time...as well as the 2 point space.

Hitting the 3 would happen sometimes...the 5 rarely and above the 5 probably never.

I'll actually run it 30 times over the weekend and report back...but I predict a score of no better than 30 unless I catch one perf and land above the 5.

Good drill.

Thanks!

Jim
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Well, I warmed up normally...agreed with myself to take 5 practice attempts...no more...no less...and then shot ten attempts.

I hit the 1 ball x2 =2, the space next to it x1 3 the 3 ball =5

Total of 10 pts which equalled my estimate of 20 pts for 20 attempts, so of course, I quit!

(-:

I guess I suck at that shot.

(-:

Jim
 
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