jrt30004 said:
The basic rule to apply to a supposed pyramid scheme is if the people that you bring in (get on a team in this case) do not have the same opportunity to go to Vegas, win on a local level etc. as people that have been involved for a longer period of time, then it would be a pyramid. In a true pyramid scheme you can never go farther (make more money) than someone who has been involved longer than you. The APA offers a level playing field for all players to get to Vegas and win. The FTC keeps a pretty sharp eye on pyramid schemes and most true ones are shut down within a few years.blueridge said:
So if you own a good restaurant and your customers bring their friends, relatives, and coworkers, it's a pyramid scheme? Read about the laws of what a pyramid scheme is before posting or someone might think you are a guest on the Maury show.TheNewSharkster said:
Every business is shaped like a pyramid but it does not mean it is a pyramid. Think of where you work. Does the owner of the company make more money than you? Can you make more money than the owner of your company? Most of the people on this forum work at a place with a business plan that is in the shape of a pyramid, but it's not a pyramid.TheNewSharkster said:In APA's case the LO is on the top and everybody pays him
I actually was given a cuetec cue with a APA logo on it for recruiting 5 players. YES! It was what I always wanted. Actually when I go out and a friend forgets his cue he gets to use the cuetec. I wont touch it was a 10' pole
$7.00 to leagueTheNewSharkster said:
Finding a player that can actually sandbag and knows how the system works is a pretty rare combination. The APA is very on top of sand baggers especially at the nationals level. Like I said earlier, I've played in the APA for 11 years now and have seen all the so called sand baggers come and go, and they never seem to go anywhere. they always go up or just don't play as good as they think they can during the tri annuals or local team championships. In fact the whole sand bagging thing is really just an excuse for people that just can't win or had an off day. And there are always going to be know it all bar/room owners or team captains that say they would have done this or that and think they are smarter than the system but they never win. Most league operators are fairly in tune with who's who in the area. A person that can really play is not going to just sneak in under the radar for very long and why would they? You think a strong player is interested in playing on a team for bunch of nights and pay weekly fees and commit to all the time involved in getting to Vegas to split a few thousand bucks 7 or 8 ways if they beat a million other teams? Get real. The team nationals are played on bar tables with buckets, anybody might run out at any time. They aren't all sand baggers, get over it.jtompilot said:
bumpypickle said:
That's the whole point of APA. Those that hate APA so much may just need better friends (or to get their better friends to play pool). If you go into it looking for top notch competition on a consistent basis, then you'll be disappointed. Of course, the same is often true at the weekly tournament at local poolhalls.Rubyron said:The little patches they give you for break and runs fill me with glee. I DO needs me some more patches.
Plus, I hear that after you play 500 matches and give them, oh, about $4,000 they give you a jacket announcing the milestone to the world. I needs me one of them too.
The one positive thing about the APA (for me) is that I have friends who don't play so good but love to play pool and it gives us a chance to hang out together and be part of a team. Every once in a while I'll play a session and I always seem to have a good time.
I dont reallly want to get into your bis. with these other people but as far as the sandbagging thing your wrong...I stop buy the team nationals as part of my summer vacation. I've been there 5 years in a row plus twice in april there are sandbaggers all over, people who just play enough matches to be able to play in the minis...you can play at a 6 level and be a 4 very easy, without really sandbagging if your team captain nows how to pick matches...I know enough I could move to another town and get a diff. ID play 10 matches on a double jepordy team and go to vegas as a 4 and 5 and rape the minis, except theres alot of people that Ive met that go every year too, and they would out me in a second.bumpypickle said:
Ive always go my money from them in cash if I get a 1099 from them this year Ill be pi**ed for suregunzby said:
