Harassment - your view please!

Are you serious?

Vendetta?

Stalker?

Obsession?

Really?

Wow.

LOL...this thread has officially entered the twilight zone. Somebody post a picture of a little dog dumping on something.

Yeah, there's a lot of pretty severe over-reacting going on here.

Jake and Angela: It's not that big a dispute. Find out who's legally right (hopefully you won't have to go to court to find out, but maybe you will), and the person in the wrong will have to adjust their behavior in accordance with the law. That's it. No reason at all for any big sinister concepts like harassment, vendetta, or anything else to be brought into the conversation.

-Andrew
 
Are you serious?

Vendetta?

Stalker?

Obsession?

Really?

Wow.

LOL...this thread has officially entered the twilight zone. Somebody post a picture of a little dog dumping on something.

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It's the 1st one that came up on Google...
 
Are you serious?

Vendetta?

Stalker?

Obsession?

Really?

Wow.

LOL...this thread has officially entered the twilight zone. Somebody post a picture of a little dog dumping on something.
Wow, all that is reaching... and grasping at nothing. PoolTees has no vendetta, is not stalking, has no obsession, or anything else you're throwing around, Angela. This would not involve the FBI since it is not even considered internet harassment. He sent you letters requesting for you to stop using your name, which he feels is his right to do. There is a huge difference.
 
Are you serious?

Vendetta?

Stalker?

Obsession?

Really?

Wow.

LOL...this thread has officially entered the twilight zone. Somebody post a picture of a little dog dumping on something.

Too funny, lolol!

I absolutely LOVE it when I hear people that throw the ol "Ima gonna sue you" line around. Obviously those people never sued anyone civilly before, nor do they have any clue what kind of financial undertaking they are about to go through.

Sue away :rolleyes:


Eric >heard about a boy named "sue"
 
From what my understanding is that if he has a legal grievence against your website name, he needs to file and serve you before you are required to do anything about it. Now is this harassment? Thats different depending on what state you are in. Badmouthing your website isnt harassment. Calling you threatening names etc, thats harrassment. If he continues to send you emails after repeated requests to stop, you can put him on a block list, you might even be able to contact his email provider and get them to do something about it.

If his badmouthing your site on blogs is costing you money, you can get that back but you will have to sue,win, and collect. Chances are that the behavior isnt going to stop. Its part of doing business.
 
After reading and researching everything,

Angela should not change her logo. They are clearly different.

However, since PoolTees existed first, Angela should change her business name. Both of them, actually. Whether it's legal or not, it's unethical. She obviously copied from PoolTees.com and PoolPaintings.com and even admitted about the latter.

Jacob handled himself professionally. We have all seen the emails as Angela posted them, and he even posted a screenshot himself.

Angela, however, keeps bringing up idle and ludicrous threats, imagined charges of internet stalking and harassment, and the FBI. Though, I must admit the FBI bits make me laugh.
 
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After reading and researching everything,

Angela should not change her logo. They are clearly different.

However, since PoolTees existed first, Angela should change her business name. Both of them, actually. Whether it's legal or not, it's unethical. She obviously copied from PoolTees.com and PoolPaintings.com and even admitted about the latter.

Jacob handled himself professionally. We have all seen the emails as Angela posted them, and he even posted a screenshot himself.

Angela, however, keeps bringing up idle and ludicrous threats, imagined charges of internet stalking and harassment, and the FBI. Though, I must admit the FBI bits make me laugh.

I admitted I researched trademark law to be sure the words I was putting together would be safe from copyright and even searched them for trademark. It wasn't until after I had my website up and running that I found the other painting website, not including the word room. The name PoolRoomPaintings came natural - not to mistake it with Swimming... LOL but serious!

I did however know about PoolTees before I created my site PoolRoomTees - but again the reason behind it was to keep the name as close to my other website as possible.

Name change for me is out of the question.... And I don't expect PoolTees to change their name. All I ask is that he not contact any of my business associates in the future. This huge web world is big enough for both of us. I'm not going anywhere.
 
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Regarding the "harassment" issue, I can comment on that because I'd looooove to clear the record here.

I sent Angela ONE email. That's right, ONE. I did not badmouth her business in public nor badmouth her.

Yet she:
1. sent repeated emails to me
2. had her friend call me
3. put numerous postings on various social networking sites with "confrontational language" or whatever you want to call it. see attached:

And I'm the one doing the harassing???? :shrug:
 

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You gotta treat any harrasser like the class clown....just igore them and they will go away faster than to keep giving them attention.
I know this works becasue i used to be the class clown...=))
 
Regarding the "harassment" issue, I can comment on that because I'd looooove to clear the record here.

I sent Angela ONE email. That's right, ONE. I did not badmouth her business in public nor badmouth her.

Yet she:
1. sent repeated emails to me
2. had her friend call me
3. put numerous postings on various social networking sites with "confrontational language" or whatever you want to call it. see attached:

And I'm the one doing the harassing???? :shrug:

Wow.......

Okay, this debate is done. Please remove this thread. Nothing more needs to be said on this forum, this is NOT something we need to be concerned with. I'm almost speechless...
 
Regarding the "harassment" issue, I can comment on that because I'd looooove to clear the record here.

I sent Angela ONE email. That's right, ONE. I did not badmouth her business in public nor badmouth her.

Yet she:
1. sent repeated emails to me
2. had her friend call me
3. put numerous postings on various social networking sites with "confrontational language" or whatever you want to call it. see attached:

And I'm the one doing the harassing???? :shrug:

I do admit to this one..... Then I apologized with my video.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylef0eWOwh8
 
You folks are great entertainment, but I am now even more proud that I do not wear tee shirts.

Dave

PS OK, I have 2 Steely Dan tee shirts :thumbup:
 
Yep I did that...

Regarding the "harassment" issue, I can comment on that because I'd looooove to clear the record here.

I sent Angela ONE email. That's right, ONE. I did not badmouth her business in public nor badmouth her.

Yet she:
1. sent repeated emails to me
2. had her friend call me
3. put numerous postings on various social networking sites with "confrontational language" or whatever you want to call it. see attached:

And I'm the one doing the harassing???? :shrug:


The repeated Emails? just asking him to stop
I asked Eric Yow to call him - Eric is an Attorney
Numerous Postings? Yes here

I did do that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylef0eWOwh8
 
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OrigZaphod said:
reading your post, makes me think that since he has been here longer, and has given away stuff, he is then by default, right? So thats how it works? Kick backs, and you are ok, be a new person and you are wrong?

i dont think that is what you meant, but it can be read that way. :)

It was stated as a means of pointing out that he has a good reputation on these forums and in the pool world. He's got a lot of character witnesses in the pool world. :)

ShootingRazbone said:
This post is about as biased as they come... and a complete hoot.

He isn't being a "nice young man" at this point... is he? He is being a hard core shrewd business man and quite frankly IS stalking. He is getting her stuff removed from other websites without contacting a lawyer or this woman for that matter before he does it,what do you constitue as this being then?

I made no mention of how he is currently acting and will not make a decision based on one side of the story. What I did say, and apparently didn't use enough verbiage for some to understand is that (outside of this current situation, which I will not comment on) Jake is a very nice, personable, honest, person. In his everyday life, he is well liked, well versed and plays well with others.

The closest I'll come to even speculating on his actions about this situation is this - When it comes to your survival, (livelihood) are you going to go fight to survive or roll over and play dead? It is human nature to fight tooth & nail for survival (survival of the fittest). Some people are just mean & ruthless and would do cruel, hurtful things on purpose because they get a kick out of that. That is not Jake's nature. Many people have fought tooth & nail for no reason (they were given incorrect info, or misunderstood something). It's very possible that Jake honest to goodness thinks (thought) he was within legal rights to do what he has done.

Both seem to be claiming they have legal rights to back their actions. One is wrong but can you blame them for fighting tooth & nail to fight for what they believe is right?

My "biased post" was to simply let Angela know that while she isn't having a pleasant experience with Jake, he isn't the mean, horrible guy she thinks he is. Instead of wasting tax dollars going after someone who is actually a nice guy (when he's not fighting for survival), this is something that could be settled peacefully because with someone like Jake, that is a possibility.

If jake were one of those jerks that would do cruel things to people just for fun because they get a kick out it, I would've said so.

PoolRoomTeesCOM said:
I called my friend Eric Yow, Many of you know him as a Pool Trick Shot artist but he is also an Attorney. He called Jake yesterday but of course Jake refused to discuss the situation with him.
Keyword highlighted & should be sufficient for explaining why Jake didn't talk to him about this matter.


Last but not least, after having read every post in this thread, I've got to say that Angela you are a major part of the problem. The fact that you knew of Jakes website and absolutely refuse to change the name shows that you are very much a part of the problem. Had you acted more maturely and put yourself in Jake's shoes to try to see his point of view, you would've simply used a different domain name (if you were a nice person). Instead of you're acting indignant as if you've just drawn a line in the sand and stood there with your arms crossed saying "I dare you", simply because you can.
 
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