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Im not sure of what this means and was hopeing someone could
explain it,,


Draw an imaginary line from the dead center of the pocket through the dead center of the ball and where it exits is what is usually known as the "contact point". This becomes the primary focus of setting up, aligning yourself, and trying to get the CB to strike.
Now, take 2 steps in either direction and again look at the ball and find the dead center of it from this new position that you just moved your body into. What you'll see if you draw a line straight through it is that it's now going into a cushion far from the pocket. Under Hal's method of aiming, THIS NEW CENTER, regardless of your position on the table, is where your primary focus is and you work around THAT. NOT THE OLD CENTER CONTACT POINT FROM POCKET THROUGH BALL. It's the CENTER from where your CB and OB are in alignment. At other times you're working off of edges. He calls it rotating/revolving centers, and it's easy to see because anytime you move in one direction or another just slightly, the center of the OB changes.
 
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You hope someone can explain it and then add you comments?

What's up with that?


Im not sure of what this means and was hoping someone could explain it

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That's all I have to say about it. It's 3-dimensional in nature, if you want to call it cosmic, heresy, malarkey, bullcrap, or whatever, it's only because you don't know it, don't understand it, and don't know how to execute it.
 
You hope someone can explain it and then add you comments?

What's up with that?

The only thing i wrote was this,,
(Im not sure of what this means and was hopeing someone could
explain it,,).

This was a post from drivermaker,i didnt write any of it i was just trying
to figure out what he was talking about.
 
... i was just trying to figure out what he was talking about.
There'll be a statue of you in the BCA hall of fame if you ever succeed in making sense of it...or receive a rational explanation. I'll personally buy the marble and do whatever it takes to contract Michelangelo for the job.

Jim
 
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Im not sure of what this means and was hopeing someone could
explain it,,


Draw an imaginary line from the dead center of the pocket through the dead center of the ball and where it exits is what is usually known as the "contact point". This becomes the primary focus of setting up, aligning yourself, and trying to get the CB to strike.
Now, take 2 steps in either direction and again look at the ball and find the dead center of it from this new position that you just moved your body into. What you'll see if you draw a line straight through it is that it's now going into a cushion far from the pocket. Under Hal's method of aiming, THIS NEW CENTER, regardless of your position on the table, is where your primary focus is and you work around THAT. NOT THE OLD CENTER CONTACT POINT FROM POCKET THROUGH BALL. It's the CENTER from where your CB and OB are in alignment. At other times you're working off of edges. He calls it rotating/revolving centers, and it's easy to see because anytime you move in one direction or another just slightly, the center of the OB changes.


Like you, I'm new around here :wink:. I have no idea what this all means, other than I've been aiming wrong all these years. Now I have to take back all those games I've won, shots I've made and players I've busted. Okay line up at the door and I'll take care of you.:thumbup:
 
Like you, I'm new around here :wink:. I have no idea what this all means, other than I've been aiming wrong all these years. Now I have to take back all those games I've won, shots I've made and players I've busted. Okay line up at the door and I'll take care of you.:thumbup:

There's actually no need for anyone to line up at the door any more. From wherever he is in the room, just draw an imaginary line from the center of the door through the center of him...
 
What you'll see if you draw a line straight through it is that it's now going into a cushion far from the pocket. Under Hal's method of aiming, THIS NEW CENTER, regardless of your position on the table, is where your primary focus is and you work around THAT. NOT THE OLD CENTER CONTACT POINT FROM POCKET THROUGH BALL. It's the CENTER from where your CB and OB are in alignment. At other times you're working off of edges.

I've never thrown rocks at Hal's approach,although I know nothing about it other then what I read here,I imagine it would do my feable mind some good.

That said,the quoted above sentence has me bumfuzzled beyond reason.
 
You can use the line-from-the-pocket trick to figure out the contact point on the ball you're trying to sink. But as for actually aiming and sinking the ball, I would recommend that you throw most formulas out the window.

I can't prove it, but I feel very sure that almost every ball that a player sinks, across all skill levels, is sunk because their brain recognizes it from a similar situation in the past. The more times you've seen it and tried it, the more likely you are to make it. Figure out the contact point, try your hardest to make the cue ball hit that contact point, and don't overcomplicate it. Repeat about 100 times for a certain shot and you will make that shot more than the average guy.
 
Im not sure of what this means and was hopeing someone could
explain it,,


Draw an imaginary line from the dead center of the pocket through the dead center of the ball and where it exits is what is usually known as the "contact point". This becomes the primary focus of setting up, aligning yourself, and trying to get the CB to strike.
Now, take 2 steps in either direction and again look at the ball and find the dead center of it from this new position that you just moved your body into. What you'll see if you draw a line straight through it is that it's now going into a cushion far from the pocket. Under Hal's method of aiming, THIS NEW CENTER, regardless of your position on the table, is where your primary focus is and you work around THAT. NOT THE OLD CENTER CONTACT POINT FROM POCKET THROUGH BALL. It's the CENTER from where your CB and OB are in alignment. At other times you're working off of edges. He calls it rotating/revolving centers, and it's easy to see because anytime you move in one direction or another just slightly, the center of the OB changes.

You're talking about finding two different things that are found by looking from different perspectives. The first is where the CB needs to contact the OB (the "OB contact point") - this is found by looking along the line from the OB to the pocket. The second is how the CB and OB need to visually "overlap" (from the perspective of the CB) in order to make the CB contact that point on the OB - this is found from the perspective of the CB.

For instance, in order to make the CB contact the OB for a thirty-degree cut, the CB and OB have to visually overlap half of their widths (called a "half ball hit"), like this:

30 degree cut.jpg

To accomplish this you have to visually aim the edge of the CB at the center of the OB from the perspective of the CB.

pj
chgo
 
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