Who's in your group?

Gerry

Gerry

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Years ago I read a "self-help" book that was explaining how you can create your own group of mentors any time you want. So, if you don't have access to these people, you put them in your head to help you out with whatever you are working on.

When I'm playing 14.1, I imagine Mosconi, Sigel, and Ortman sitting by the table to help me with patterns or give me a hard time when I do stupid things :)

or when I practice one pocket...it's Frost, Efren, and Ronnie Allen fielding my questions and helping me with positions....

When I'm not sure what to do, I try to imagine what these guys would do in this situation. Sometimes it's aggressive like Frost or Ronnie....sometimes it's creative like Efren, or smothering like Varner.

Since pool is a game of being out there by yourself, next time you get in a tough spot.....stop and ask your "go to" group of champions for some help. You'd be surprised how well it works.

Just be careful not to carry on conversations out loud! :) you WILL get some really funny looks!

G.
 
Gerry said:
Years ago I read a "self-help" book that was explaining how you can create your own group of mentors any time you want. So, if you don't have access to these people, you put them in your head to help you out with whatever you are working on.

When I'm playing 14.1, I imagine Mosconi, Sigel, and Ortman sitting by the table to help me with patterns or give me a hard time when I do stupid things :)

or when I practice one pocket...it's Frost, Efren, and Ronnie Allen fielding my questions and helping me with positions....

When I'm not sure what to do, I try to imagine what these guys would do in this situation. Sometimes it's aggressive like Frost or Ronnie....sometimes it's creative like Efren, or smothering like Varner.

Since pool is a game of being out there by yourself, next time you get in a tough spot.....stop and ask your "go to" group of champions for some help. You'd be surprised how well it works.

Just be careful not to carry on conversations out loud! :) you WILL get some really funny looks!

G.
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That's a great technique...did that come from Napoleon Hill? He used to 'seek counsel' from his (deceased) mentors...then he became so immersed in it that he got scared he might be going nuts and quit the practice.

Since you mentioned Scott.....

When I'm choosing between a softer, but longer follow shot vs. a harder, shorter draw shot (to the side rail and back towards my end of the table for example), if I choose the draw shot, I imagine I'm Scott Frost shooting that shot. I do that because I played 8-ball mostly andwhen I played around Scott, he played nine ball mostly. I watched him shoot hard draw much more than I did, and so now when I need that shot, I imagine I am shooting it with as much confidence and skill as Scott would, if that make sense.

It works, for sure...good thread.

Jeff Livingston
 
Gerry said:
When I'm playing 14.1, I imagine Mosconi, Sigel, and Ortman sitting by the table to help me with patterns or give me a hard time when I do stupid things :)

or when I practice one pocket...it's Frost, Efren, and Ronnie Allen fielding my questions and helping me with positions....

When I'm not sure what to do, I try to imagine what these guys would do in this situation. Sometimes it's aggressive like Frost or Ronnie....sometimes it's creative like Efren, or smothering like Varner.]
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14.1...no doubt the MIZ
One Pocket...Varner, Steve Cook and Ervolino {just shows you what happens in my brain}
9-Ball...Toby Sweet, on occassion I will say it out loud "what would Toby do here" LMFAO!!!
 
You're the average of the sum of the people you hang out with.

Not a bad idea to have a real live group to create a Master Mind. If you don't have a group of folks your speed or better then the answer is very simple.
AZ Billiards.
 
chefjeff said:
That's a great technique...did that come from Napoleon Hill? He used to 'seek counsel' from his (deceased) mentors...then he became so immersed in it that he got scared he might be going nuts and quit the practice.

Since you mentioned Scott.....

When I'm choosing between a softer, but longer follow shot vs. a harder, shorter draw shot (to the side rail and back towards my end of the table for example), if I choose the draw shot, I imagine I'm Scott Frost shooting that shot. I do that because I played 8-ball mostly andwhen I played around Scott, he played nine ball mostly. I watched him shoot hard draw much more than I did, and so now when I need that shot, I imagine I am shooting it with as much confidence and skill as Scott would, if that make sense.

It works, for sure...good thread.

Jeff Livingston
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you are probably right Jeff. I know Tony Robbins was a student of Hill......who was a student of Florence Scovil Schin (sp) I think?
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
14.1...no doubt the MIZ
One Pocket...Varner, Steve Cook and Ervolino {just shows you what happens in my brain}
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Voodoo, I'm never playing you 1P....you just might play that damn WEDGE style!

you'd beat me easy....I have no patience:D
 
Varner

Gerry said:
Voodoo, I'm never playing you 1P....you just might play that damn WEDGE style!

you'd beat me easy....I have no patience:D
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I can't remember who I watched Varner playing one pocket with. What I was amazed at was 15-20 minutes spent with two object balls and the cue ball on the table and every shot played with intent and purpose, no shot was played just to let the player survive to get another shot later.

That might have been boring as hell to somebody that didn't understand one-pocket but it was some of the most intense and interesting pool I have ever seen played. The other player might have been Gabe Owens but I'm not sure of that.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I can't remember who I watched Varner playing one pocket with. What I was amazed at was 15-20 minutes spent with two object balls and the cue ball on the table and every shot played with intent and purpose, no shot was played just to let the player survive to get another shot later.

That might have been boring as hell to somebody that didn't understand one-pocket but it was some of the most intense and interesting pool I have ever seen played. The other player might have been Gabe Owens but I'm not sure of that.

Hu
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yea Hu, I understand the game and what they are doing, but up table and wedge style games just aren't my cup o tea.
 
ShootingArts said:
I can't remember who I watched Varner playing one pocket with. What I was amazed at was 15-20 minutes spent with two object balls and the cue ball on the table and every shot played with intent and purpose, no shot was played just to let the player survive to get another shot later.



Hu
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Was that when he was playing Alex in finals of the 2000 World?
 
I use Ronnie O's as my imaginary mentor cracking the whip. I also try to imagine myself and putting myself in their shoes.

I admire that guys game and his level of concentration as well as many other great players, which the list can go on forever.

I find that it does help!
 
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