PAYING 8 DOLLARS FOR MY 6 HOUR DAILY SPECIAL SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL!:wink:
APA - What a Rip Off.
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PAYING 8 DOLLARS FOR MY 6 HOUR DAILY SPECIAL SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL!:wink:
so is 7 a night for a shot at a trip to vegas, but in both cases, most pool players feel they are getting ripped off.
mongoose-
Banned
For starters here theres only a qualifier for the states which lead to vegas. NO CASH is paid in either. 250+ teams sending 3 in 8ball & 2 in 9 ball is BS. Plain & simple.. let alone those who win then drive 7 hours to Boston for the flight... we don't live in Mass here we live in Maine. So you do the math APA genious and show me some of your ignorance. The numbers DO NOT lie. My numbers add up just fine jacknuts thus why I am not the retard being ripped off as aparently you are. Good luck donating.
mongoose-
Banned
This sounds more like a LO issue not an issue with the APA in general.
Maybe players in your area need to look into the franchise agreement and see if your LO in within guidlines. If he is, than he is one hell of a business man to keep 250 teams going (our local APA is 10% the size of your LO's and we send three teams to Vegas and have 3 money tournaments a year)......they (players) must enjoy playing pool and the company they keep if they keep coming back session after session.....I am sure that is why they play, not just for the possibility of a trip or some cash.
Same with the APA league I belong too. there is maybe 80 teams and we send three 8 ball teams and one 9 ball team to vegas.
I personally joined the APA not for the chance to go to Vegas, but because the pool room I shoot at provides FREE POOL from open to 7pm on weekdays for all APA members who play out of his room. Several local rooms here in Clearwater have this perk for APA members.
so for 7$ a week, I probably squeak out 5-7 hours of free pool.
Seems like a win/win for me.
I have never understood the burning hatered for the APA. Its an Amateur League with crappy payouts. So what? If you dont like it, don't play in it.
The only reason I still play in the APA, is becuase I enjoy the night out with friends. I would be much better served playing in an open league of some sort.
We have pool rooms here in town that charge as much as $8 per hour for table time. At the end of your hour, you either turn in the balls, or pay for another hour. When you are done, you don't get anything back from the room. That is how he makes his living.
You pay $30 a year and 7 or 8 bucks a night to play every week. Even if you got nothing at all back from the league, it's still a good deal. Someone else posted that pool players seem to want everything for free. I'm beginning to see what they meant.
Why don't you start uip a league yourself? You can do all the work, and then pay everything you made back to your players. You will be broke, but everyone will love you.
Steve
damn
How about this...I play in four different leagues in Milwaukee. Two are inner-city leagues (Northside), one East Side league, and one BCA league.
For the two inner-city leagues, the tavern owners for whom I played paid all of the dues and the quarters for the entire season!!!! Nothing out of my pocket. Whenever we played away games we got a $40 tab to drink on for the five of us. Then, at the end of the season they simply subtract their expenses from our prize money and we are still going to get over $100 per person back for a fourth place finish and more than $150 per person back for a third place finish!!!!
On the East side, we paid $9.00 per week including quarters. We took second and got back $200 per person for four players. There were 7 teams in our league.
In the BCA, I was simply a sub getting my games in so that I qualify to play in BCA tournament events. I did not get any prize money but have done so in the past.
I have never played in the APA. However, I would not want to based on what I have read.
How about this...I play in four different leagues in Milwaukee. Two are inner-city leagues (Northside), one East Side league, and one BCA league.
For the two inner-city leagues, the tavern owners for whom I played paid all of the dues and the quarters for the entire season!!!! Nothing out of my pocket. Whenever we played away games we got a $40 tab to drink on for the five of us. Then, at the end of the season they simply subtract their expenses from our prize money and we are still going to get over $100 per person back for a fourth place finish and more than $150 per person back for a third place finish!!!!
On the East side, we paid $9.00 per week including quarters. We took second and got back $200 per person for four players. There were 7 teams in our league.
In the BCA, I was simply a sub getting my games in so that I qualify to play in BCA tournament events. I did not get any prize money but have done so in the past.
I have never played in the APA. However, I would not want to based on what I have read.
I love folks who use terms like "jacknuts". What this all comes down to is that you are free not to participate in the APA or anything else you don't wish to. You also have the ability to critique the franchise. HOWEVER, it doesn't mean, that based on your arguments (or lack thereof), that we have to concur, follow, agree or believe you. Which is why folks of your ilk always piss me off. Its your way or the highway. I happen to disagree with you, but there is no doubt that you are certainly entitled to your opinion. The key is that we aren't all losers just because we disagree with you. That's just ignorant.
Unfortunately, you are the representative gene pool in billiards. Which is why Tiger Woods owns a yacht and Ralf Souquet is eating burgers at McDonalds. Golfers invest in the sport and pool players expect someone else to pay for it. Funny, I never hear a golfer complaining about profits made on the $500 driver they just bought.
tim
mongoose-
Banned
I do run a league if you read the first post. We started it last year has just 4 teams this summer.. had 6 throughout the winter... it pays back 100%. It takes me 20 minutes to do the score sheets & I have a job thanks so I don't need to leech off the players & I am far from broke. I am happy to give them back what they put in which is what they deserve. They don't deserve being fleeced by a LO with a lure of a free trip to Vegas when the trip is NOT free. I know that may be hard to understand for some as they are so used to getting robbed.
mongoose-
Banned
LOL funnyyyyy. Glad I could piss you off either way & glad you think it is people like me that is why there is no money in pool. If that is your answer to take money from the players pot like the APA does it no wonder why there would be no money in pool. Won't be long & pool players won't be able to afford to go to Mcdonalds either.
You are comparing your 4 team league with a 250 team league as if the workload is fairly similar?
Comedy gold!
no name calling.
If you can't have an adult conversation, you shouldn't post about the subject.
Marcus <--- not trying to be the az police, but name calling is not needed
4...... 250..... WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE THE DIFFERENCE???????
Marcus <-----DOESN'T WANT TO BE A LO, POOL PLAYERS WHINE TOO MUCH
mongoose-
Banned
Of course the work load isn't similar but are you going to tell me the work load is worth $3800 out of $4800 paid in... well probably you are as you are a LO.
mongoose-
Banned
LOL funnyyyyy. Glad I could piss you off either way & glad you think it is people like me that is why there is no money in pool. If that is your answer to take money from the players pot like the APA does it no wonder why there would be no money in pool. Won't be long & pool players won't be able to afford to go to Mcdonalds either.
NOT YOU IN PARTICULAR, BUT GROUPS OF GUYS LIKE YOU, ARE THE REASON THERE IS NO MONEY IN POOL. IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO SPEND ANY MONEY, THE SPORT DOESN'T GENERATE MONEY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE 7 DOLLARS A WEEK, THAN DON'T PLAY. ENJOY YOUR 4 TEAM LEAGUE, AND PLAYING THE SAME GUYS OVER, AND OVER, AND OVER, AND OVER AGAIN. SOUNDS BOREING TO ME.
I'VE GONE TO VEGAS WITH THE APA FOR TEAM NATIONALS (TWICE), AND SCOTCH DOUBLES. I ENJOYED EVERY TRIP.
I'M GONNA TAKE A GUESS THAT YOU'VE NEVER QUALIFIED FOR NATIONALS, AND THAT YOU THINK YOUR WHOLE TEAM WAS OVER RATED, AND THAT THE LO IS OUT TO GET YOU?
Marcus <--- HAS LEARNED, THAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, JUST DON'T PARTICIPATE
so so sorry.....
THANKS FOR BEING SARCASTIC, THAT'S ANOTHER SIGN OF MATURITY.
SWEARING AND NAME CALLING IS THE ATTEMPT OF A FEEBLE MIND TO SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY.
Marcus <---- JUST WANTED YOU TO STOP MAKING YOURSELF LOOK FEEBLE MINDED
mongoose-
Banned
wrong assumption... when I tried the APA several years ago I went to the nationals in the Masters & it was a good time & a well run event.. we finished 17th... don't keep assuming.
YOU THINK IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING TO RUN THE LEAGUE? AND THAT HIS TIME IS WORTH NOTHING? DO YOU THINK THE AIRLINES FLY THE PLAYERS FOR FREE, OR THAT THE HOTELS ARE SO GENEROUS THAT THEY JUST HAVE ALL THE TEAMS STAY IN VEGAS FOR FREE?
THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF POOLPLAYERS......... NOTHING IS EVER GOOD ENOUGH, AND THE PAYOUT IS NEVER HIGH ENOUGH.
Marcus <------ NOTHING IS FREE