Galveston big money tournament head count.

[Tbeaux]

It sounds to me like they have thought this out. "They" put up money for first place. As the entries come in "their" liability to pay off first decreases and they shift "their" money towards paying off top 25% of field, as entries increase "their" money may or may not come out of paying the field. They only guarantee first place payoff, so it's not like they're trying to pull the wool over anybodies eye.What the payoff to the top 25% may be is still unknown but sure as shit if they came out and made a statement on that and were unfortunately unable to meet what they say they would catch a ration of crap and lawsuits. I give these guys credit for doing this in a very sensible way. People who want to participate need to get over the "WHAT ABOUT ME SYNDROME".

 

[Bigtruck]

Thanks Ray,
I looked all over the website and listened to all the interviews and still couldn't find any money breakdown except for the 1st place being guaranteed.
You must be 'in the know' about these things. Why did you wait so long to let us know?
Do you know what the % of the total amount of entry fees, for each place will be?

Tom & fellow AZers,

I do not know the percentages for each place. Maybe you can ask this question when we do the live chat.

I just spoke with Bobby. We are trying to coordinate the live chat Q & A session for Monday June, 15th. Hopefully I can confirm this by Saturday. I will be posting a transcript of the chat here on the forums. The plan is to answer questions for about an hour.

Ray

 

[lfigueroa]

You know how to subtract for sure! lol

I remember hearing about this a while ago. In any venture, business, or recreation, a plan needs to be recognized, and fully supported to make it a success. Holding back support will surely make the event seem as though it was a mediocre venue. The same thing has been happening in bass tournaments all over the country.... and the bashing.

ah, yeah. But part one is having "a plan."

And asking logical questions, or pointing out that things have not been thought through, or at least if they have, advertised to their target audience, is not bashing.

Or are we all just to be lemmings?

Lou Figueroa
is that a cliff
I see?

 

[Bigtruck]

Tom & fellow AZers,

I do not know the percentages for each place. Maybe you can ask this question when we do the live chat.

I just spoke with Bobby. We are trying to coordinate the live chat Q & A session for Monday June, 15th. Hopefully I can confirm this by Saturday. I will be posting a transcript of the chat here on the forums. The plan is to answer questions for about an hour.

Ray

Just a couple of more things..........

We originally were gonna try and schedule the live chat for Friday evening. There were some major developments from the meeting last night that made next Monday a better choice. The questions that we have probably won't change, but there is some very exciting announcements that they might be able to make on Monday that they couldn't on Friday.

Ray

 

[lfigueroa]

It sounds to me like they have thought this out. "They" put up money for first place. As the entries come in "their" liability to pay off first decreases and they shift "their" money towards paying off top 25% of field, as entries increase "their" money may or may not come out of paying the field. They only guarantee first place payoff, so it's not like they're trying to pull the wool over anybodies eye.What the payoff to the top 25% may be is still unknown but sure as shit if they came out and made a statement on that and were unfortunately unable to meet what they say they would catch a ration of crap and lawsuits. I give these guys credit for doing this in a very sensible way. People who want to participate need to get over the "WHAT ABOUT ME SYNDROME".

You can come up with any label you want... but it doesn't change the fact that intelligent folks can and will ask questions ;-)

Lou Figueroa
can't speak for the
non-intelligent faction

 

[Tbeaux]

You can come up with any label you want... but it doesn't change the fact that intelligent folks can and will ask questions ;-)

Lou Figueroa
can't speak for the
non-intelligent faction

True.

The promoters motives appear honorable. If that's the case they'll answer the questions. I just hope that this doesn't become a situation where nay sayers drive a startup away from holding future events.

To give an example the recent DP 10 ball womens world championship. I wondered if Charlie would turn it into a circus, I wasn't involved so I kept quiet until he DID turn it into a circus. I do hope there continues to be a 10ball WWC but that they correct the problems found in the inaugural event. I just think these guys deserve the same chance. Questions are fine before hand, criticism is for after the facts are known. Bigtruck seems to be affording everone the opportunity to get their questions answered.

 

[Tom In Cincy]

Tbeaux,
I guess you'll be covering our back huh?

Tom<---- we are a little slow out here in California... Lots of Money...just everyone has an opinion on how to spend it or who is owed it.

"WHAT ABOUT ME SYNDROME".

 

[JoeyA]

Joey -- "near future" -- it's like four freapin' months till the tournament!

Don't you agree that the "NEWS RELEASES" should have been out long ago. Just one example: I can go, via SW, St. Louis to Houston (Hobby) for like $230. But that's today. By the time they let their NEWS RELEASES go, my price will probably be up. The same goes for hotels and cars. From other markets, further away, it'll be worse.

IMO, what all these promises mean is that these guys don't really have a plan -- they're making it up as they go along (or are forced to), and, character or not, it's no way to run a railroad.

And don't get me started on the DCC (computer breakdown for the draw anyone ;-)

Lou Figueroa

There are many things that could have been done differently and on different time tables.

I understand a little caution from those who need to watch their expenditures for pool tournaments but some of the comments that you and Jay have made, indicates that the two of you see the glass as half empty. You have always said your mind about the negative things happening at the DCC and you were right on the money most of the time so this isn't out of character for you.

I hope the consistently negative comments coming from Jay are just old age. His bashing seems more than just words of caution and his comments are quite surprising.

There was a major meeting yesterday and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING now and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED. I'm just not at liberty to discuss them right now but as I mentioned, you will be hearing lots of good things in the near future.

Apparently BigTruck has an in that I wasn't aware of and will be having a live chat soon and the promoters will be sharing additional information with those of you who tune in.

Everyone has to make their own decisions about going to this tournament but these promoters have extremely broad vision and if only half of what they say is going to happen, it may be the best thing that ever happened to pool. Additional details coming soon.......ALL GOOD.

These guys are what pool has needed FOR A LONG TIME. I think those interested in seeing pool promoted in a bigger and better way should drop what they are doing in September, get behind these fellows and show up.
I don't think I am telling too much out of school but they are trying to bring pool to television.
We don't have to wonder what will happen if we ever get men's professional pool to television. We don't have to wonder what would happen if we had sponsors from outside of the pool industry. We don't have to wonder about what professional pool players would say about getting a bigger pay day on a regular basis.

As people who enjoy the game of pool and I think I can speak for you, Jay, myself and all of the rest of the people on AZ Billiards; we want to see good things happen to pool.

The bottom line is these guys are trying to get pool to television and I want to help them get there even if all I get to do is contribute to the One Pocket Tournament entry fees and the hotel expenses.

I really don't care if I get the commentary gig or not. Well, I do but I'll be there regardless because I want to put my money behind these guys because they have some of the best ideas I have ever seen.

There are lots of ifs, ands and buts, however that isn't going to stop me from supporting the efforts of these promoters because if I don't show up it means that I really don't want to see them succeed. The thousand dollars or so that I will spend (if that) will be my stake in helping them succeed in bringing pool to television.

I owe pool at least that much.

(Besides, a pool tournament and playing against the pros is always a lot of fun regardless of whether I am winning or losing).
JoeyA

 

[lfigueroa]

True.

The promoters motives appear honorable. If that's the case they'll answer the questions. I just hope that this doesn't become a situation where nay sayers drive a startup away from holding future events.

To give an example the recent DP 10 ball womens world championship. I wondered if Charlie would turn it into a circus, I wasn't involved so I kept quiet until he DID turn it into a circus. I do hope there continues to be a 10ball WWC but that they correct the problems found in the inaugural event. I just think these guys deserve the same chance. Questions are fine before hand, criticism is for after the facts are known. Bigtruck seems to be affording everone the opportunity to get their questions answered.

Fair enough.

I certainly can't question that these guys are honorable men. So, I think we all have to wait for whatever else shakes loose, hopefully, next week.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

There are many things that could have been done differently and on different time tables.

I understand a little caution from those who need to watch their expenditures for pool tournaments but some of the comments that you and Jay have made, indicates that the two of you see the glass as half empty. You have always said your mind about the negative things happening at the DCC and you were right on the money most of the time so this isn't out of character for you.

I hope the consistently negative comments coming from Jay are just old age. His bashing seems more than just words of caution and his comments are quite surprising.

There was a major meeting yesterday and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING now and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED. I'm just not at liberty to discuss them right now but as I mentioned, you will be hearing lots of good things in the near future.

Apparently BigTruck has an in that I wasn't aware of and will be having a live chat soon and the promoters will be sharing additional information with those of you who tune in.

Everyone has to make their own decisions about going to this tournament but these promoters have extremely broad vision and if only half of what they say is going to happen, it may be the best thing that ever happened to pool. Additional details coming soon.......ALL GOOD.

These guys are what pool has needed FOR A LONG TIME. I think those interested in seeing pool promoted in a bigger and better way should drop what they are doing in September, get behind these fellows and show up.
I don't think I am telling too much out of school but they are trying to bring pool to television.
We don't have to wonder what will happen if we ever get men's professional pool to television. We don't have to wonder what would happen if we had sponsors from outside of the pool industry. We don't have to wonder about what professional pool players would say about getting a bigger pay day on a regular basis.

As people who enjoy the game of pool and I think I can speak for you, Jay, myself and all of the rest of the people on AZ Billiards; we want to see good things happen to pool.

The bottom line is these guys are trying to get pool to television and I want to help them get there even if all I get to do is contribute to the One Pocket Tournament entry fees and the hotel expenses.

I really don't care if I get the commentary gig or not. Well, I do but I'll be there regardless because I want to put my money behind these guys because they have some of the best ideas I have ever seen.

There are lots of ifs, ands and buts, however that isn't going to stop me from supporting the efforts of these promoters because if I don't show up it means that I really don't want to see them succeed. The thousand dollars or so that I will spend (if that) will be my stake in helping them succeed in bringing pool to television.

I owe pool at least that much.

(Besides, a pool tournament and playing against the pros is always a lot of fun regardless of whether I am winning or losing).
JoeyA

Joey, I take a little umbrage at what you've just posted.

Yes, I've spoken my mind about "negatives" at events I've attended. In "character" or no, I've also spoken clearly about the *positives* concerning the events I've attended. Painting my past negative comments as being representative of my "character" is out of line.

You know, I can well afford the time and monies to do anything I want. But that doesn't mean I'm going to throw my money away. So that's not it. I can't speak for Jay, but where is the bashing? Bashing is: "These guys are scumbags that are out to rip everyone off. Don't support this stinkin' event." No one has said anything remotely approaching that and I totally reject your charge of "bashing," just because some of us have not been the Dallas Cowboy "cheer leaders" for this event that you've been (Howard Cosell mit pom poms). It is a totally scurrilous and intellectually bankrupt accusation, given the record of discussion to date. Basically and in a nutshell, all the good stuff you've said about these guys was also said of the IPT.

BFD.

There is no consolation there. And if these guys are so cool, and were thinking about this, *at least* back in January at the DCC, where they had a sorry ass table with a couple of business cards, they should have more info out on the street by now -- a 100 days before their event.

I love pool too. But you know what? Most pool players don't watch pool on TV, or even on the internet -- the numbers for that endeavor are abysmal. And, if tomorrow, Johnny Archer, or Efren, or Allison get a better payday, or get on TV more often, that is not going to do squadoosh for the average pool player.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Tbeaux]

Tbeaux,
I guess you'll be covering our back huh?

Tom<---- we are a little slow out here in California... Lots of Money...just everyone has an opinion on how to spend it or who is owed it.

NAh man.....I can't back or guarantee anything!:smile:

Anybody wants guarantees or backing need to call this number
(202) 456-1414
:thumbup:

 

[ShootingArts]

a little bit of preparation time

Ray,

Just as a heads up so the guys aren't blindsided Monday. One thing I think many of us would like to know is current status of entries and booths committed to. How many paid entries in each event, some idea of verbal commitments since we all know many will squeeze the cash until the last minute, how many booths paid for now? Who are some of the major players in the industry who have purchased booth space? Some of the big names committed to play would be nice too.

This might be a short statement to start things off possibly answering many questions before they are asked one by one.

As for the skeptics and the more enthusiastic members, I have to admit I am straddling the fence a bit. I'm hoping for the best, I feel sure there will be an event, and I fully believe first place monies will be paid. I don't doubt all places committed to will be paid but I have no idea what second down will pay and admittedly that is a small concern. I very much want this event to be a success. An event at a reasonable scale ran by good people is badly needed and obviously only the start of what these people have in mind.

Every major event is a controlled crisis at best. None go smoothly. The very best are like a duck, smooth on the surface while they are paddling like hell underwater to keep things working. A first time event is even harder to pull off so yes I expect some minor mistakes. In fact, from my view up here in the peanut gallery I think some have already been made. The guys in the fire probably recognize some things they could do better too but you learn a lot every time you put on an event. The things I learned when involved with putting on small to medium sized events was to try to dodge involvement in the future. Putting on events is a mammoth job with usually damned few rewards.

I wish the folks in Galveston well. I think their events could easily rank with the best soon if not necessarily the first time. There is some comparison to the IPT. Most supported the IPT when we knew in our hearts it was a sucker bet. This deal looks a thousand times better to me and what are we really risking compared to what the promoters are?

Hu

 

[jay helfert]

True.

The promoters motives appear honorable. If that's the case they'll answer the questions. I just hope that this doesn't become a situation where nay sayers drive a startup away from holding future events.

To give an example the recent DP 10 ball womens world championship. I wondered if Charlie would turn it into a circus, I wasn't involved so I kept quiet until he DID turn it into a circus. I do hope there continues to be a 10ball WWC but that they correct the problems found in the inaugural event. I just think these guys deserve the same chance. Questions are fine before hand, criticism is for after the facts are known. Bigtruck seems to be affording everone the opportunity to get their questions answered.

And someone said that I was "bashing" this event because I'm not in lock step with everyone else. The recent WWC was a legitimate event with substantial prize money paid out to the top 24 players (half the field). I have no doubt it will held again next year. And more top women will play. It is a great addition to women's pool.

 

[Tbeaux]

And someone said that I was "bashing" this event because I'm not in lock step with everyone else. The recent WWC was a legitimate event with substantial prize money paid out to the top 24 players (half the field). I have no doubt it will held again next year. And more top women will play. It is a great addition to women's pool.

Wasn't referring to you Jay. The issue of money for the field is a legitimate concern. But these guys probably don't have pockets deep enough to "Guarantee" the field payout with their own money. That will probably depend lots on how many players show. I figure some parts like the wheelchair competition they may have to pay out some themselves. Why you posting? GO buy some diapers or something.:thumbup:

 

[jay helfert]

There are many things that could have been done differently and on different time tables.

I understand a little caution from those who need to watch their expenditures for pool tournaments but some of the comments that you and Jay have made, indicates that the two of you see the glass as half empty. You have always said your mind about the negative things happening at the DCC and you were right on the money most of the time so this isn't out of character for you.

I hope the consistently negative comments coming from Jay are just old age. His bashing seems more than just words of caution and his comments are quite surprising.

There was a major meeting yesterday and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING now and LOTS OF GREAT THINGS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED. I'm just not at liberty to discuss them right now but as I mentioned, you will be hearing lots of good things in the near future.

Apparently BigTruck has an in that I wasn't aware of and will be having a live chat soon and the promoters will be sharing additional information with those of you who tune in.

Everyone has to make their own decisions about going to this tournament but these promoters have extremely broad vision and if only half of what they say is going to happen, it may be the best thing that ever happened to pool. Additional details coming soon.......ALL GOOD.

These guys are what pool has needed FOR A LONG TIME. I think those interested in seeing pool promoted in a bigger and better way should drop what they are doing in September, get behind these fellows and show up.
I don't think I am telling too much out of school but they are trying to bring pool to television.
We don't have to wonder what will happen if we ever get men's professional pool to television. We don't have to wonder what would happen if we had sponsors from outside of the pool industry. We don't have to wonder about what professional pool players would say about getting a bigger pay day on a regular basis.

As people who enjoy the game of pool and I think I can speak for you, Jay, myself and all of the rest of the people on AZ Billiards; we want to see good things happen to pool.

The bottom line is these guys are trying to get pool to television and I want to help them get there even if all I get to do is contribute to the One Pocket Tournament entry fees and the hotel expenses.

I really don't care if I get the commentary gig or not. Well, I do but I'll be there regardless because I want to put my money behind these guys because they have some of the best ideas I have ever seen.

There are lots of ifs, ands and buts, however that isn't going to stop me from supporting the efforts of these promoters because if I don't show up it means that I really don't want to see them succeed. The thousand dollars or so that I will spend (if that) will be my stake in helping them succeed in bringing pool to television.

I owe pool at least that much.

(Besides, a pool tournament and playing against the pros is always a lot of fun regardless of whether I am winning or losing).
JoeyA

Joey, I'm sorry you consider my comments as negative or "bashing". I am only raising my concerns and asking what I believe to be legitimate questions, that I would like an answer to. Until I see such an answer in print I can only speculate on their "plan" for this event.

Unlike some, I refuse to wear blinders and ignore real issues that could dramatically affect the success of this event. I am actually doing the promoters a favor by addressing these concerns. I'm saying what many players (who don't post on here) are thinking.

 

[Fatboy]

I'm embarassed to say that I can't sleep. I seldom have trouble sleeping EVER and I mean ever. Even when I was sleeping under the stars in Vietnam, I could close my eyes and within a minute I would be fast asleep. I wake up the same way, fast. Well maybe I don't wake up as fast as I used to but I'm still pretty quick on my feet.

Tonight I fell asleep quickly as usual, then about an hour ago I started thinking about the tournament in Galveston and what a great time awaits me and all of the other players. So many thoughts are racing through my mine that they are not allowing me to continue my normal deep slumber. It is what it is. I'm sure it is simply because I am excited about this tournament for more reasons than I can share in this post.

While there is going to be a tremendous payout for some of the top finishers for AMATEURS and PROFESSIONALS, it is more than that for me.

I have a few goals for this tournament and they have me running on high octane at the moment. Yeah, I know; it doesn't take much for me to get excited.

I want to sit in the commentary booth for this tournament and give my very best to those who cannot attend as well as for posterity.

I want to make the tournament commentary special for everyone including my guests.

I want to invite players like Billy Incardona, Ralf Souquet, John Schmidt, Grady Mathews, Buddy Hall, Danny Harriman, Keith McCready, Rodney Morris, Johnny Archer, Corey Deuel, Niels Feijen, Allison Fisher, Karen Korr, Jasmin Ouschan, Dennis Hatch, Chris Bartram, Darren Appleton....My God, I could go on and on. It would be great to have different players from different countries where our languages are not the same but with whom we could cross the languange barrier to share their perspective about our great sport, maybe even players from China, Korea, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE. I can imagine sitting in a booth with Fong Pang Chao doing commentary, like the United Nations do with a translator describing his every word and mine as well in his native tongue.

I want to give the players the honor they deserve for being in this sport and giving so much of their lives to it.

I want to give the player's sponsors my very best to showcase their products and services in the best light.

I want to give the new and old players a chance to market themselves to new sponsors.

I want to give an opportunity to young players just coming up a chance to share their youth and passion for our sport and to expose them to potential sponsors.

It would be one of my special ambitions to find sponsorship for a deserving player, OUTSIDE of the industry.

It would be so cool to have people like Jennie Malloy to sit in the booth and provide commentary. The stories that girl could tell. :wink:

And how cool would it be to have THE NICEST GUY ON AZ BILLIARDS also known as "THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANY TOUGHER", Terry Ardeno in the booth.

And how could I forget my mentor Jay Helfert. Jay and I once did some fine commentary in Fayetteville NC. It was my very first match and Jay and I were fresh and excited, simply seizing the day and rolling like cue balls on new Simonis cloth and Diamond Billiard Tables. Unfortunately, there were system problems and Internet problems that plagued our match and it was never heard. It was probably some of our best work.

Well, I'm still not sleepy but I have a big day tomorrow. I have to give up the nuts in Buffalo's FREE one pocket tournament , (like I always do on every Friday) (thanks ChrisB) and I know you're getting bored with my run on. Typing helps me unwind.

Oh yeah, I want to give remembrance to my great grandfather and great grandmother who I never met, but who traveled from Dubrovnik, Yugoslavia in the later 1800's to settle in Galveston, TX, only to lose their lives to THE GREAT HURRICANE OF 1900 (you can google it). And how could I not give my note of respect to my grandfather, who at the age of 14 was orphaned in that same town or maybe I should say the Gulf of Mexico. He started our family over when he moved from Galveston to Louisiana and I think he would have loved to see me sitting in the booth in Galveston, helping in my own small way to bring a little life back to Galveston, Texas.

My horse Efren playing in the nightly mini-tournaments, me playing in the one pocket tournament, watching all of the amateur events going on, and who will be able to take their eyes off of the Ten Ball Championship with the most determined players in the world coming to win some of the BIG MONEY which is there for the taking, seeing old acquaintances and meeting new friends... ah yes, those are just lagniappe.

Hope to see you all there.

OH... and all this and I haven't even been hired, YET. :thumbup:

JoeyA (maybe now I can go back to sleep to dream some more).

Great post Joey, I wish I had 10% of your commentary skills, Cardone might be introuble . :thumbup:

Enjoy yourself,

best

eric:smile:

 

[JoeyA]

Joey, I take a little umbrage at what you've just posted.

Yes, I've spoken my mind about "negatives" at events I've attended. In "character" or no, I've also spoken clearly about the *positives* concerning the events I've attended. Painting my past negative comments as being representative of my "character" is grossly out of line.

Lou, sorry you are taking a little umbrage at what I posted but I don't think I would change it but do respect you and how you carry yourself.

As to painting your negative comments as being representative of your character; what I was trying to say is that you don't hesitate to make your opinions known even when they are negative. I wasn't trying to say you were a negative person or that your character suffered in any way from your negative comments in this thread or any other thread. You give accolades where accolades are due and I hope in the near future you will be saying some positive things about this upcoming tournament.

You know, I can well afford the time and monies to do anything I want.

Lou, I know full well that you are just fine on the monies and that you are not a cheapskate. I think you value tournaments very similar to the way that I value them.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to throw my money away. So that's not it. I can't speak for Jay, but where is the bashing? Bashing is: "These guys are scumbags that are out to rip everyone off. Don't support this stinkin' event." No one has said anything remotely approaching that and I totally reject your charge of "bashing," just because some of us have not been the Dallas Cowboy "cheer leaders" for this event that you've been (Howard Cosell mit pom poms). It is a totally scurrilous and intellectually bankrupt accusation, given the record of discussion to date. Basically and in a nutshell, all the good stuff you've said about these guys was said of the IPT.
And here you go again, comparing these guys to the IPT. I think its negative and uncalled for but that's just my opinion.BFD.

There is no consolation there. And if these guys are so cool, and were thinking about this, *at least* back in January at the DCC, where they had a sorry ass table with a couple of business cards, they should have more info out on the street by now -- a 100 days before their event.
And when I look at this statement I can only respond that this is the kind of negative feeling I get from your posts concerning this tournament.
I love pool too. But you know what? Most pool players don't watch pool on TV, or even on the internet -- the numbers for that endeavor are abysmal. And, if tomorrow, Johnny Archer, or Efren, or Allison get a better payday, or get on TV more often, that is not going to do squadoosh for the average pool player.

Lou Figueroa

If the tournament promoters pass their third and final hurdle concerning the Player's Auction, you may find a little solace and appreciation for some of what they are attempting to do.

Here's hoping that more information is forthcoming that will help change your mind and make this tournament a big success and fun for all.

JoeyA

 

[lfigueroa]

If the tournament promoters pass their third and final hurdle concerning the Player's Auction, you may find a little solace and appreciation for some of what they are attempting to do.

Here's hoping that more information is forthcoming that will help change your mind and make this tournament a big success and fun for all.

JoeyA

Joey, I think we all want these guys to do good. But with their info having huge gaping holes and additional details coming out piecemeal, it looks less than good and does bear resemblance to things gone past.

Who doesn't the tournament to be a success? No one. So I hope you're right about their plans.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Bigtruck]

Joey, I'm sorry you consider my comments as negative or "bashing". I am only raising my concerns and asking what I believe to be legitimate questions, that I would like an answer to. Until I see such an answer in print I can only speculate on their "plan" for this event.

Unlike some, I refuse to wear blinders and ignore real issues that could dramatically affect the success of this event. I am actually doing the promoters a favor by addressing these concerns. I'm saying what many players (who don't post on here) are thinking.

Jay responding to someone’s concerns in the Sarah Rousey thread:

I'm used to 'knockers'. Every poolroom has a few. And so does AZ. In case anyone doesn't know what a 'knocker" is, it's someone who gets involved in other peoples business and tries to kill their action or their game. That is what I'm seeing a lot of on this thread.

Jay responding here 3 months before this event:

........ It's an expensive trip (airfare, hotel, entry fees) and there is still too much uncertainty for me. One concern I have is that with so much money guraranteed on top, what the payout structure will be like. I suspect it may look something like 50K for first and 10K for second (or less). In this case, there will be some serious dealmaking going on.

Jay,

You are a knocker by your own definition. The question is, why? Why knock something that could be so good for the players. Every tournament out there has payouts based on turnout. Why not help get people here and make the payouts better?

Ray

 

[Voodoo Daddy]

I like your math way better than mine, even though I have no idea how it works. My problem is that I know how to add and subtract.

Spits coffee all over screen, you bastid!!!

That was funny, I dont care who you are...LMFAO!!!