Mizerak graphite cue

I have never played with one, but if it feels good, who cares what it is made of. If I could run out with a styrofoam cue, I would play with it!(Ok, maybe not)
 
i have several shafts with graphite in the core and a wood outer layer (mezz hybrid pro 2, cuetec thundebolt, cuetec r360). all are very nice shafts, and I think this is better than a cue made of all graphite. the wood outer core slides a lot better on your bridge and is easier to maintain than graphite. there can be a different sound, but depending on the design, usually it is very little and not a bad thing. it does stiffen up the shaft quite a bit, so you can have long tapers without getting whippy. they are also pretty consistent in terms of radial flex. i assume they are more warp resistant as well, but obviously i have not tried to warp my shaft on purpose to test his :)
 
@sfleinen

The problem is that its mostly just some cheap ass wood covered with a layer of graphite. That kinda spoils your theories.
 
McChen said:
i have several shafts with graphite in the core and a wood outer layer (mezz hybrid pro 2, cuetec thundebolt, cuetec r360). all are very nice shafts, and I think this is better than a cue made of all graphite. the wood outer core slides a lot better on your bridge and is easier to maintain than graphite. there can be a different sound, but depending on the design, usually it is very little and not a bad thing. it does stiffen up the shaft quite a bit, so you can have long tapers without getting whippy. they are also pretty consistent in terms of radial flex. i assume they are more warp resistant as well, but obviously i have not tried to warp my shaft on purpose to test his :)
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My carbon shafts are smother than wood. In humid conditions, they will get sticky from the sweat and oils from your skin,then you wipe the shaft with a dry paper towel or napkin. All is smooth again.
Another feature of my shafts is the ability to change to a break tip for the break and then back to the play tip for the rest of the match.
Alot of work has gone into developing the shaft and it is still ongoing.
Neil
 
interesting conetip....sounds like your graphite shafts are different than the ones currently on the market. good luck with it, i'm interested to see how it turns out!
 
McChen-

Have you measured where the pivot point is on any of your carbon-core shafts? In particular, if anyone knows where the pivot point is on a G-Core I'd be interested in hearing about it.
 
Conetip -

Are your shafts carbon fiber tube (i.e. hollow) ? If so, do you use a ferrule? Do you know the pivot point?

Also... what are those conical tip things in your avatar?
 
Dead Crab said:
Conetip -

Are your shafts carbon fiber tube (i.e. hollow) ? If so, do you use a ferrule? Do you know the pivot point?

Also... what are those conical tip things in your avatar?
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The conical things in my avatar are the replaceable tip inserts that I have a patent on.There is a ferrule insert that these fit into.
The carbon shafts are hollow with my tip system. They do not need to be filled but I am working on making them heavier to suit standard cue handles
while maintaining the hit and feel that I have developed.
The shafts can also be used in a jump and a break cue , with different weight handles.The current shaft is 11 mm tip with 15 mm joint(for my cues) and weighs 1.6 oz, I am looking at making it with a .850 joint and the weight being in the 3 oz range but keeping the lightweight front end.
Neil
 
Big 5 Sporting Goods sold off a bunch last year at like $15.00. They flew off the shelves, and ended in in the hand of my Sr. Player who did not know what they got, but it was a DEAL to them.
 
Dead Crab said:
McChen-

Have you measured where the pivot point is on any of your carbon-core shafts? In particular, if anyone knows where the pivot point is on a G-Core I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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cuetec r360 - deflects the same as my OB-1. platinum billiard's tests had it at a 12.3" pivot, which in my casual testing seems right.

cuetec thunderbolt - deflects the same as my USS LS, which platinum has as a 10.7" pivot, which in my quick testing seems right. though platinum's data shows the thunderbolt to be a little higher deflection than the USS LS, mine seems to deflect about the same as the USS

mezz hybrid pro 2 - just got it, haven't played with it yet. it's supposed to be the lowest deflection of all the mezz shafts. i have a wd700 which i thought was pretty low already

keep in mind, that just because a shaft uses a carbon core, it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be low deflection.
 
I have a basic graphite $30 cue from walmart that I got when I first bought a cheapo table. To be honest, I can make the cue ball do the same things with that cue, that I can do with my better cues. The feel is a little different, but I don't think it is to the extent that some are saying on here. Mine is definately stiffer than my wood cues, and it will get sticky if not kept clean, but other than that, it plays fine. I currently use it as a break cue only, and feel it does a fairly good job at that. It also much more impervious to warping than wood cues.

I am a firm believer that it is really the stick user not the stick that makes the difference, and the lack of difference in performance from $30 cues to much more expensive cues is a major reason why. I have not used a low deflection shaft, and that may be a different story, but in my experience, those cheap walmart cues won't hurt my game any. Then again, maybe my game is just that bad to begin with :)
 
Jule said:
@sfleinen

The problem is that its mostly just some cheap ass wood covered with a layer of graphite. That kinda spoils your theories.
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Jule:

That may be the case for some cheap graphite cues, but certainly not for the one that I had for a couple years in my car's trunk. This cue certainly was solid graphite, not layered upon wood. This I knew for sure. Does that speak to all the graphite cues sold? No, it does not. So the net of all this is "buyer beware" -- examine the cue first before purchasing, and try to find out if it's all graphite, or a wood core with graphite layered upon it.

Thanks for pointing that out, Jule!
-Sean
 
Hello:
I don't know if anyone mentioned because I didn't read through every post but there a decent made graphite cues and what I will call Junk graphite cues. Some of the shafts are hallow and filled with foam on the junk ones.
Ron
 
Now you've made me curious.
What brand was that solid graphite cue? I've never seen one.


btw: That "Halex Titanium Cue" someone mentioned before is made of a hollow tan plastic/fiber rod that has been sprayed grey (the whole thing). I know this for sure because I bought one at Walmart and sanded some of the coating off (being the curious guy I am :D)
 
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