WTB: This is the general design I'm looking for.

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Not sure if this is the place to put such a post, so I copied it over to the For Sale section as well, feel free to delete if needed.

I'm looking to get a sneaky pete made out of some really nice wood. I'd like a darker cocobolo used for the hoppe style bumperless butt and really curly maple used for the forearm. I toyed around with the idea of getting a curly shaft made for it to match, but that's not required, just let me know if it's an option. Looking for a 3/8-10 stainless pin, 13mm sized Wizard M tip (or something similar), one shaft only, and have it all weigh as close to 19.5oz as possible. As far as ring work goes, I really like the style pictured below, but would be open to other styles as well. Price I'm willing to pay is going to depend on the wood selection and extra ringwork included, but I have another cue on order with Jim Lee already, so I'm not looking to break the bank either.

I know we have a ton of great cuemakers on the board, so hopefully somebody has a hankering to make a nice SP. :grin:

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You say you want a "Sneaky Pete" style cue but then go on to describe a custom cue.
A "Sneaky Pete" is full spliced with 4 points and is made to look as much like a like a house cue as possible.
That is why they called it a "Sneaky Pete" ... it looked off the wall but played like a custom.
Back when anyone with a two piece cue was considered a hustler there was a valid reason to own one as walking into a bar with a flashy custom cue got a lot of attention and knocked the action.
Now just about everyone at every joint has a custom cue to bang the bar box with.

So just how Sneaky do you think custom ring work and special wood would be ... think it would fool anyone at a bar.

What you want is a CUSTOM CUE and just about any cue maker here can make that for you.

Two cue styles that are often mislabeled are the Merry Widow and the Sneaky Pete.
 
I'm well aware of the origin of the term "Sneaky Pete", but if you search through the For Sale section, you'll see that a lot of cues with inlays, ringwork, etc. etc. are still called Sneaky Petes. It's just the Sneaky Pete design, which is basically a house stick broken down, but dressed up. The first two cues that were offered to me had inlays and veneers. Hell, even the Predator "Sneaky Petes" have veneers and wraps.
 
I'm well aware of the origin of the term "Sneaky Pete", but if you search through the For Sale section, you'll see that a lot of cues with inlays, ringwork, etc. etc. are still called Sneaky Petes. It's just the Sneaky Pete design, which is basically a house stick broken down, but dressed up. The first two cues that were offered to me had inlays and veneers. Hell, even the Predator "Sneaky Petes" have veneers and wraps.

Apparently not well enough to use the term correctly.

Yes ... many are wrong in what they call a Sneaky Pete.
Knowing what they are and why they were called that helps understand why they are wrong.
So many have used the name so loosely for so long that I doubt any attempt to educate the masses would be successful.
Sneaky Pete cues use a house cue for the butt (or something that looks like one).
Is that what you want?

What you are describing is a custom cue ... not a Sneaky Pete ... simple truth.
 
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Apparently not well enough to use the term correctly.

Yes ... many are wrong in what they call a Sneaky Pete.
Knowing what they are and why they were called that helps understand why they are wrong.
So many have used the name so loosely for so long that I doubt any attempt to educate the masses would be successful.
Sneaky Pete cues use a house cue for the butt (or something that looks like one).
Is that what you want?

What you are describing is a custom cue ... not a Sneaky Pete ... simple truth.

The simple truth is that the definition of the term has evolved over the years to describe a certain style of cue, not simply a cue disguised as a house cue. If I say I want a SP, or SP style if you will, it's implied that I don't want a wrap, any veneers or inlays, but that I do want 4 points and a darker wood into a natural colored maple forearm. If you want a true "sneaky pete" these days, you'd be better off buying a sportcraft cue from kmart and modifying it to play better, rather than using a house stick of some sort as just about everyone can spot one of those.

My definition of a "Custom Cue" would be anything that you put an order in for with a cuemaker, that doesn't come directly off the rack from a retailer.

Edit: And just to be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that the term has become more than what it used to be. I actually started a thread on this topic last year. Click Here For Thread
 
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