Any Big Steve Stories?

Been a while:wink: and my memory isn't too good, I guess. I was there when it happened. I remember Keith in the hall grousing about the cue being gone, I thought it was before the final.

It's possible, but I thought Keith used the Szam all the way. I don't remember hearing anything from Keith about my cue being missing until after he won. Somehow he already knew who had it and how he got it. I guess the people at the front desk told him what had happened.
 
Anyone have any Big Steve stories? I heard he was a real piece of work. I'll start with two I heard.

A pro player was gambling at the Golden Cue in Queens NYC a game of straight pool for 50 dollars. Big Steve is in the bleechers watching, he constantly yelling to the player that he is going to rape his wife, and then gets down from the bleechers and farts in his face. The player unscrews his cues pays his opponent, and says he's never coming back.

Another I heard was someone beats Big Steve for money. The guy gets in the car, Steve gets in his car pulls him over and robs him. An officer happens to catch him in the act. He makes Steve return his money, but does not arrest him. The officer leaves, the guy gets in his car and drives off, Steve gets in his car and pulls him over again and robs the guy all over again.


What a character.
I mentioned this thread to my wife and she reminded me of something Steve used to do I had forgotten about. Steve would go to one of those companies that shipped your car by having someone drive it, drive away companies. Steve would get a car and never deliver it. He would drive it around for months. Mercedes Cadillac's and so on. The owners often would put stuff in the cars like golf clubs, clothes what ever they also wanted to ship. Steve would come to the pool room and sell everything that was in the car. Then just drive the car like it was his before leaving it on the side of the road to picked up or stolen for a second time. I don't know how many time he did this, I remember at least at least 5 or 6 times. You could never get away with stuff like that today because of computers but back then it was easy.

I should add I used to do something sort of like that. We would be going to a tournament and would get a car going to the same area. We would also book a car coming back as close to home as we could. This used to be so common you could get cars going almost anywhere within a few hundred miles. Anyway, they usually give you like a week to get the car there. We would drive straight through and use the car the whole time we were there delivering it before we were ready to leave. About 90% of the time if you made your plans far enough in advance this worked out. They also usually gave you around $150.00 and the first tank of gas. What's funny, today they want you to pay them to drive cars.
 
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It's possible, but I thought Keith used the Szam all the way. I don't remember hearing anything from Keith about my cue being missing until after he won. Somehow he already knew who had it and how he got it. I guess the people at the front desk told him what had happened.

If I remember right, they described Steve exactly after hearing the cue was missing.
Damn good tournament, though!!
 
I don't know if this is the same Big Steve...But during the late 70's a player by the name of Big Steve would stop in Fayetteville, NC to hustle pool. I ran into him several times and either he was going to NY from Miami or to Miami from NY. He was about 6'3 to 6'4 and weighed 350 to 400 lbs. When I seen him he was driving a corvett. Any way I remember him matching up with Lotsa Poppa playing 1 pocket. Each posting $300, with Charlie Backer holding the money. Lotsa Poppa beat him, I think they were playing 5 ahead for the money. The whole time they were playing Big Steve was telling all the sweaters that Lotsa Poppa had no chance to beat him. After Poppa beat him he went to Charlier Backer to collect the money. Charlie looked at him and denied ever receiving any money from either of the players. The whole place went silence because everybody seen both players hand Charlie money. Charlie was a big man but both of these guys were twice his size. Neither player said nothing and they both left. I guess they knew more than me because at the time I was new to pool and found out later the Charlie owned most of Fayetteville and nobody messed with him. I got to know Charlie a little better over time and he told me he was settling an old score.

I remember talking with Big Steve and he mentioned getting robbed at gun point in Miami at the Congress,
 
If I remember right, they described Steve exactly after hearing the cue was missing.
Damn good tournament, though!!

I liked it too! Keith won $25,000 for us and that was 25 years ago. Same as what Mika won the other day. 25K was serious money back then, like $100,000 today.
 
I liked it too! Keith won $25,000 for us and that was 25 years ago. Same as what Mika won the other day. 25K was serious money back then, like $100,000 today.

I'm sure you're aware that the other promoters got Gary to lower first prize to $10,000 after the first year because they couldn't fade that kind of payout. At least, that was Gary's claim.
 
I don't know if this is the same Big Steve...But during the late 70's a player by the name of Big Steve would stop in Fayetteville, NC to hustle pool. I ran into him several times and either he was going to NY from Miami or to Miami from NY. He was about 6'3 to 6'4 and weighed 350 to 400 lbs. When I seen him he was driving a corvett. Any way I remember him matching up with Lotsa Poppa playing 1 pocket. Each posting $300, with Charlie Backer holding the money. Lotsa Poppa beat him, I think they were playing 5 ahead for the money. The whole time they were playing Big Steve was telling all the sweaters that Lotsa Poppa had no chance to beat him. After Poppa beat him he went to Charlier Backer to collect the money. Charlie looked at him and denied ever receiving any money from either of the players. The whole place went silence because everybody seen both players hand Charlie money. Charlie was a big man but both of these guys were twice his size. Neither player said nothing and they both left. I guess they knew more than me because at the time I was new to pool and found out later the Charlie owned most of Fayetteville and nobody messed with him. I got to know Charlie a little better over time and he told me he was settling an old score.

I remember talking with Big Steve and he mentioned getting robbed at gun point in Miami at the Congress,
You have enough details to make me believe you are talking about the same guy. I was in the Congress by the way the night it was robbed. When we left we went right past the guys as they were coming in to rob the place. A few nights later we ran into them a few towns over and they had a pocket full of money and where playing one pocket going off for the whole amount. This same group robbed another pool room taking everybody's money about a week later. Back in those days there were not ATM cards. On a Friday night people had all their money in their pockets. And forget about robbing a room full of gamblers, the thieves would get more then if they robbed a bank. The Congress robbery they figured the robbers made off like $30,000 just out of the players pockets..
 
I'm sure you're aware that the other promoters got Gary to lower first prize to $10,000 after the first year because they couldn't fade that kind of payout. At least, that was Gary's claim.


The year Keith won it paid $25,000 for first and $10,000 for second, a pretty big drop off. He was playing Lebron in the finals and Mike wanted to make a "deal", 20K and 15K. Keith said nothing doing and beat him 9-3 in the finals. Keith got 12.5K and so did I. Keith ran down to Philly to try to give Jimmy Fusco the eight ball at Boulevard Billiards. He came home broke. :rolleyes:
 
The year Keith won it paid $25,000 for first and $10,000 for second, a pretty big drop off. He was playing Lebron in the finals and Mike wanted to make a "deal", 20K and 15K. Keith said nothing doing and beat him 9-3 in the finals. Keith got 12.5K and so did I. Keith ran down to Philly to try to give Jimmy Fusco the eight ball at Boulevard Billiards. He came home broke. :rolleyes:

Jay, I enjoy reading the memories, but just to set the record straight, I was playing Jimmy, giving him the 8 playing 9-ball.

We put up for two sets. He had me one set down. Then on the hill the next set, he missed the 7-ball. I got the score to even, come back and win the set. Now we are even, and he pulled up. He all of a sudden didn't like it anymore. I tried to bet more, and they unjointed. That's what happened.

If I did come home broke, it wasn't because of that game. Jimmy never beat me playing 9-ball. Not one time.
 
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