Take other pool player's advice with a grain of salt. There are a billion players who think they know everything about the game, but few that actually do (and even fewer that will share their knowledge). My rule of thumb is to apply the useful knowledge and learn from the misinformation that others spread. Only you can judge what is useful and what is wrong.
How long did it take you to learn Back English, BR, LR?
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you are absolutely right.. in my "real life" I stopped offering advice.. because no one wanted to listen.. it was more fun for them to think they know what they are doing than to actually know..
so I stopped offering advice.. I stopped helping...
I like to help new players.. I used to be the guy begging for info... now I have it..and offer it freely...and most blow it off even when they ask for it.. this thread is a perfect example....
you are right.. ignore all advice... helping new player get better isn't worth it..
figure it out on your own or lose... you must be from New York..
I am officially finished trying to lead the blind ...
they don't even want to know ... they just want to think they know...
good... let them lose to me marveling at my mind blowing stop shot..
it isn't worth the typing if no one will read it anyway...
THANK YOU...... now there is a voice of reason!
The only thing I'd like to add if I may, is that to avoid the problems of contact point vs aiming point with round balls, I'd like to suggest trying to aim the left side of your stick to the contact point on the OB, when cutting left and the right straight edge of your stick when cutting right rather than the center of the shaft. This will eliminate the curvature problem of contact point vs aiming point mental adjustments.
Forget jumping and twisting and flailing your cue stick around. Thats horse SH$#& .
Simply stroke through the cue ball. Regardless of the sidespin you need it doesn't matter. Cue the ball with the type of english you want (try my side of the stick method rather than the center of it) and stroke through to the contact point on the Object ball. IF YOU HIT THAT SPOT, THE BALL MUST GO IN THE POCKET.
The advice has started getting to how to pocket balls
I don't need advice on that.
All I was needing was information on draw , follow, and tangent lines so I can setup my next shot. Making pockets is not a problem for me really.
Thanks everyone earlier in the thread, it started being about something completely different once it hit the half way point of page 3.. so lets just end it and ill practice the good advice in the first two pages, and 1/4 of page 3.
Thanks - pool lesson to learn the rest is what ill do. I'll keep practicing draw,follow,stop shots. I'll try to observe where the tangent line is as well so I can learn how to use that.
I don't need advice on that.
All I was needing was information on draw , follow, and tangent lines so I can setup my next shot. Making pockets is not a problem for me really.
Thanks everyone earlier in the thread, it started being about something completely different once it hit the half way point of page 3.. so lets just end it and ill practice the good advice in the first two pages, and 1/4 of page 3.
Thanks - pool lesson to learn the rest is what ill do. I'll keep practicing draw,follow,stop shots. I'll try to observe where the tangent line is as well so I can learn how to use that.
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For most shots (with or without sidespin) the stick must be pointed somewhere to the side of the OB contact point. Rather than pretend the stick is always pointed at the OB contact point, it's more useful to notice how far to the side of the contact point the stick is actually pointed, to help your subconscious remember the next time a similar shot comes up.
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This thread isn't yours; it's for anybody who might be reading. If you already have what you want then feel free to stop reading, but you don't decide what a discussion covers or when it ends just because you started the thread.
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OK I will eat Crow and except My terminology is bad and I might of given some Misinformation. I Bad.
But I will also admit as a old dog I learned some new tricks that I might not of, had I not posted in this thread. I still think I gave some good advice also.
But I will also admit as a old dog I learned some new tricks that I might not of, had I not posted in this thread. I still think I gave some good advice also.
I think you did too. I only disagreed with your terminology - a minor thing.
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After more than 50 years of playing pool I am still self taught with the exception of a few lessons a couple of years ago. Like Softshot I learned a long time ago not to offer advice to anyone unless they ask. Then to be careful because most times they really want to remain ignorant. And that is true about everything not just pool.
I can't figure out if you are agreeing with me or not...
Nowhere did I say ignore all advice, in fact I encourage people to listen, but as I said before, with a grain of salt, meaning; be skeptical. Don't blindly follow every old timer that looks like they've been around the block, but if they have something to offer take it and use it. If the are full of crap, know how to avoid making those mistakes.
You have to be even more careful on a discussion forum like AZB, where you might think you're giving advice to one person but you're actually giving advice to many (maybe hundreds of) readers. That's why some of us are quick to correct even minor errors - the things that get said on here are being broadcast far and wide.
Not to single you out, but I often wish those who aren't very sure of what they say would not offer "technical" advice on here - every technical discussion ends up being 5-10 parts wrong opinions, corrections and arguments to 1 part actual good info. It makes AZB a small fraction of the resource it could be for those trying to learn (and I'm sure it makes many readers rightfully wary of everything they read here).
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Living near Ray is quite an opportunity for lessons. You may want to get a copy of his "99 Critical Shots in Pool" which includes a lot more than just the 99 shots. The new edition was stocked in the major book stores the last I looked, and is readily available on-line. Ask him to sign your copy.