Breaking and your dominent eye. HUGE!!!

[genomachino]

The break is probably the most important thing in pool especially on the bar table.

If you are right eye dominent you usually have a tendency to be lined up a little to the right of the center of the cue ball. You think you are in the middle but you are not. If you have someone watch from the front they will see where you are.

If you are left eye dominent the tendency is to be to the left.

Some players have a small middle. (This is the distance the stick is from the nose on a straight in shot.) They are not very strong eye dominent so they don't have a problem hitting the middle of the cue ball.

When I break I line up the cue ball with my eyes the normal way I do but I line the stick up about 1/4 inch to the right. This gets me to dead center.
I am left eye dominent. If I don't do this I get allot of spin on the cue ball spinning clockwise.

You also need to pause on your backstroke. But make sure you are stareing at the head ball when you stroke forward.

Imagine you are throwing a spear. You would pause a little once you had it back all the way. And I guarantee that you would be looking at the target if you wanted to hit it.

The same thing with the break. We are just throwing the spear underhand. Pause at the backstroke and now you can coordinate all your muscles in your body to do what you want to do when you come forward. Kind of like throwing a sucker punch when the guy isn't looking. Same thing.

But make sure you try this with the stick 1/4 inch either way until you judge this method. Many people judge before they try or think. And just say Yah Right.

Try it. I think you will like it. Lets hear some opinions and some testmonials after you have tried this.

Thanks for reading Geno.................

 

[Gerry]

Geno......now your givin out ALL the good secrets! I also make little adjustments when breaking like that......it works great! I also adjust how high up off the cue I am for different results.

good thread!


G.

 

[JoeyA]

Geno......now your givin out ALL the good secrets! I also make little adjustments when breaking like that......it works great! I also adjust how high up off the cue I am for different results.

good thread!


G.

Geno gives up MANY secrets to playing pool well in his conversations and in threads like this. He plays pool at a very high level and knows many of the nuances to enhance your performance at the table.

Thanks Geno!
JoeyA

 

[JoeyA]

Geno,
Are you going to the DCC this year?
JoeyA

 

[randyg]

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

 

[ceebee]

I've used the offset tip method for a long time, especially when I try to hit the Cue Ball extra hard. My natural movement causes me to cross the Shotline & I wind up throwing the Cue Ball slightly off target. My adjustment works to allow me to hit the Cue Ball much straighter.

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

I have the identical problem Randy.

 

[JoeyA]

Dominant Eye Test

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

So,
When you do the dominant eye test with each eye, you know the one where you point out with your index finger and place an object like a distant clock at the top of your finger like a rifle sight with a target at the top of the sight and you close the left eye, what happens to the object? Does the object move or stay still?

When you do the same test and close the right eye what happens to the object? Does the object move or stay still?

JoeyA

 

[doitforthegame]

OK- I understand the dominant eye part. So I am right eye dominant. I'm not getting what I do to line up. Are you saying line up like I am going to put left english on the ball? Or are you saying aim a little to the left of what my "natural" target spot would be?

Bob

 

[Josh Palmer]

I've used the offset tip method for a long time, especially when I try to hit the Cue Ball extra hard. My natural movement causes me to cross the Shotline & I wind up throwing the Cue Ball slightly off target. My adjustment works to allow me to hit the Cue Ball much straighter.

This is probably the best reason... Even if you do line up dead center, the extra, and also natural body movements tend to make you sweep across the shot line.

 

[ShootingArts]

speaking for myself

So,
When you do the dominant eye test with each eye, you know the one where you point out with your index finger and place an object like a distant clock at the top of your finger like a rifle sight with a target at the top of the sight and you close the left eye, what happens to the object? Does the object move or stay still?

When you do the same test and close the right eye what happens to the object? Does the object move or stay still?

JoeyA

Joey,

I tend to be very weakly right eye dominant. I can work to strengthen that dominance when I need to and do for pistol competition. Oddly enough, I fight just as hard to do a better job taking in information with my left eye shooting benchrest.

When using the finger test, the finger often moves when I close either eye. I can also force dominance and move the finger back and forth without closing either eye.

One major merit I see to Gene's teachings as I understand them is that you do determine which eye you want dominant for a shot. Paying attention to which eye is dominant might be a huge help for people like myself. I actually think I have three forms of vision, right eye dominant, left eye dominant, and true balanced binocular vision with both eyes working equally. In theory I think I would prefer the last state but when I miss badly I think it is often because I don't recognize which state of vision I am using at the time. Choosing one in the preshot routine would probably help me a ton.

Hu

 

[JohnPT]

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

nonsense. our brain overlaps one point of view over the other otherwise everything will be blurry.

 

[James2003]

The break is probably the most important thing in pool especially on the bar table.

If you are right eye dominent you usually have a tendency to be lined up a little to the right of the center of the cue ball. You think you are in the middle but you are not. If you have someone watch from the front they will see where you are.

If you are left eye dominent the tendency is to be to the left.

Some players have a small middle. (This is the distance the stick is from the nose on a straight in shot.) They are not very strong eye dominent so they don't have a problem hitting the middle of the cue ball.

When I break I line up the cue ball with my eyes the normal way I do but I line the stick up about 1/4 inch to the right. This gets me to dead center.
I am left eye dominent. If I don't do this I get allot of spin on the cue ball spinning clockwise.

You also need to pause on your backstroke. But make sure you are stareing at the head ball when you stroke forward.

Imagine you are throwing a spear. You would pause a little once you had it back all the way. And I guarantee that you would be looking at the target if you wanted to hit it.

The same thing with the break. We are just throwing the spear underhand. Pause at the backstroke and now you can coordinate all your muscles in your body to do what you want to do when you come forward. Kind of like throwing a sucker punch when the guy isn't looking. Same thing.

But make sure you try this with the stick 1/4 inch either way until you judge this method. Many people judge before they try or think. And just say Yah Right.

Try it. I think you will like it. Lets hear some opinions and some testmonials after you have tried this.

Thanks for reading Geno.................

OK I thought I was right eye but it turns out I am left eye I tested before using my hand but done it again using a knee brace that has a hole over the knee and I am left eye Dom.

So my question is.. I do not notice any spin on the cue ball when I break. Yes it comes off the rack and may hit a rail (right rail most of the time) but there is not SPIN once the ball has stopped. Should I sitll try to move 1/4" to the right with the cue or not?

 

[genomachino]

I'm going to everything I can...........

Geno,
Are you going to the DCC this year?
JoeyA

Hi there Joey and thanks,

Your compliments are gladly accepted. I hope they get that smoke out of your state so I can play in some of the great tournys down there. And of course give some of those Perfect Aim lessons to the local players.

Thanks again Geno..............

When are you going to do your next tournament?

 

[bob c]

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

Take up poker.

 

[genomachino]

Everyone has a dominent eye...........

What should I do if I don't have a dominant eye?


randyg

So far I have ran into about 10 people out of 2,000 that swore up and down they don't have one. About 500 of those didn't know which eye was dominent. They just didn't know how to find it. I helped them all find it. There are about 5 little tests that I do. Usually I don't have to do all of them before I find it. Once we find the dominent eye the player can tell the difference quite alot.

Some people have what I call a small middle. They shoot very well naturally because they don't have to worry as much where the cue stick is in regards to the eyes. There is naturally less room for error.

So far in my life I have not seen a person that doesn't have a dominent eye. We have been able to find it always. A couple of times we made the wrong choice but the player eventually figured it out while we were doing the Perfect Aim lesson because things just did work right.

I'm sure some scientist could prove there are people that don't have one but for me the proof is what I see and what I have seen.

I think this could be a good arguement though. kind of like my dad can beat up your dad. How do you prove it?

 

[genomachino]

I've used the offset tip method for a long time, especially when I try to hit the Cue Ball extra hard. My natural movement causes me to cross the Shotline & I wind up throwing the Cue Ball slightly off target. My adjustment works to allow me to hit the Cue Ball much straighter.

I'll bet it coincides with the dominent eye. Check it out and let me know.

Thanks

 

[genomachino]

Yes but only if.............

OK- I understand the dominant eye part. So I am right eye dominant. I'm not getting what I do to line up. Are you saying line up like I am going to put left english on the ball? Or are you saying aim a little to the left of what my "natural" target spot would be?

Bob

Hi there Bob,

If you are breaking and you seem to get alot of english on the cue ball that you really don't want. Notice if the ball is spinning clockwise or counter clockwise. If the ball is spinning counter clockwise after you break you are naturally lining up to far to the right on the cue ball. If it is not spinning then your OK. Your seeing it right.

I'd say out of 20 players that I have taught about 3 or 4 were hitting the cue ball in the middle. This is a big problem with many pool players. And they don't know it because it looks good to them. It's hard to see all by yourself.

See which way your ball is spinning and get back to us..............

And yes. if it is spinning counter clockwise then you need to make an adjustment to the left which will look to you like you are putting a little english on the ball. It will appear to be wrong but the ball won't be spinning like a top anymore. You lose so much power if you are not hitting that cue ball dead center.

 

[accustatsfan]

The break is probably the most important thing in pool especially on the bar table.

You also need to pause on your backstroke. But make sure you are stareing at the head ball when you stroke forward.

Imagine you are throwing a spear. You would pause a little once you had it back all the way. And I guarantee that you would be looking at the target if you wanted to hit it.

Try it. I think you will like it. Lets hear some opinions and some testmonials after you have tried this.

Thanks for reading Geno.................

Not trying to start a "post war" so don't misunderstand, but I have to ask so I can learn something.

Most or everything (I just read focus on the head ball so I can't say everything) I read or hear about breaking says to look at the cue ball last.

I do focus last on the 2nd ball for 8 ball but not the head ball than it's the cue ball.

 

[genomachino]

This is probably the best reason... Even if you do line up dead center, the extra, and also natural body movements tend to make you sweep across the shot line.

Some times I almost have to move the players cue to get them to the center of the cue ball. This is how it really looks to them. They cannot tell they are lined up to the right or left. If you have the cue pointed at the right side of the cue ball that is where you are going to hit. it's as simple as that. It is what it is.

Sure some players might sweep their stroke all over the place but I'm talking overall what I have seen and learned by giving so many of these lessons.

Most of the lessons I gave I had to have players move the stick over. They had no clue they were aiming to the right or left.

I think this is what Joe T's 3rd eye trainer in trying to address. If your doing it on the break your doing it on all the other shots too.

This is one of the extras that I do when I give the personal Perfect Aim lessons.If I see something that needs to be corrected I try to help that player with that also. Usually it is real easy to correct these things. I've had to do it for myself over the years. I had noone to show me or tell me.
And that's tough. Sometimes you are doing something totally wrong for a long time.