Brunswick Hoppe shaft?

blackwidows

blackwidows

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I purchased the shaft from Ebay a couple of years ago as a hoppe shaft. I am curious if anyone has seen one with these markings. It appears to have an S stamped on the end by the insert. Also I am wondering if this appears to be an ivory ferrule? It does have some grain to it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Blackwidows
 
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i guess your talking about the s stamp in the pilot. never seen one but i am no expert on 2 pc hoppes. i usually only go after 1 pc titlists or equal.

the ferrule is deff ivory tho..
 
Thanks Dave. I appreciate your input. I was wondering if this was a known maker with the 'S' stamp.
Thanks
 
blackwidows said:
I purchased the shaft from Ebay a couple of years ago as a hoppe shaft. I am curious if anyone has seen one with these markings. It appears to have an S stamped on the end by the insert. Also I am wondering if this appears to be an ivory ferrule? It does have some grain to it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Blackwidows
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In looking closely it looks more like it was scratched in rather then a stamp. Years ago it was common for players to mark their cues often even having their names engraved. You never see that anymore today. Those cues also often had numbers and letters stamped in the butt near the bottom. Probably something relating to manufacturing.
 
It is actually stamped. Thers 2 stamps 180 degrees apart. I looked at them under extreme magnification and it is stamped.
Thanks for the info.
 
Shafts

I just looked at a few shafts, Willie Hoppe signature cue, Rambow Hoppe, Rambow, and there
weren't any marks on the wood encased around the pilot area.
I used a magnifying glass and didn't see anything.

Good question though, you never know about this stuff.
 
Since this does have an ivory ferrule I am assuming it was made later to fit a Hoppe style cue.
Thanks
 
blackwidows said:
More pictures of the saft.

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That insert should be flush. It looks like it has backed out a bit. Also is there any other markings on the butt of the cue? Usually near the bottom of the butt below or around the sticker. Look closely.
 
blackwidows said:
Since this does have an ivory ferrule I am assuming it was made later to fit a Hoppe style cue.
Thanks
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You may be right. The collar looks like paper phenolic. Most of those old cues had black fiber rings that always swelled up.
 
macguy said:
That insert should be flush. It looks like it has backed out a bit. Also is there any other markings on the butt of the cue? Usually near the bottom of the butt below or around the sticker. Look closely.
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I have the shaft only. I purchased it separately.
 
blackwidows said:
I have the shaft only. I purchased it separately.
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If the question is - is this an orig Brunswick shaft - the answer
is def no.

The black joint rings were about 1/3 the thickness of your shaft, and the
insert was countersunk about 1/8 in into the wood tenon - no shoulder
on the insert either - as always - IIRC

Dale
 
pdcue said:
If the question is - is this an orig Brunswick shaft - the answer
is def no.

The black joint rings were about 1/3 the thickness of your shaft, and the
insert was countersunk about 1/8 in into the wood tenon - no shoulder
on the insert either - as always - IIRC

Dale

QUESTION IS WHO MADE IT?
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I've never seen a factory Hoppe shaft with a letter stamped into the pilot like that. However, as Macguy is pointing out, many of the butts have 1 or 2 letters stamped into the butt sleeve opposite the label. It's not known what they really mean, but there is loose speculation that they are butts that were special ordered from Brunswick.

Unfortunately, identifying the maker of this shaft will probably prove difficult.
Mr H
 
blackwidows said:
pdcue said:
If the question is - is this an orig Brunswick shaft - the answer
is def no.

The black joint rings were about 1/3 the thickness of your shaft, and the
insert was countersunk about 1/8 in into the wood tenon - no shoulder
on the insert either - as always - IIRC

Dale

QUESTION IS WHO MADE IT?
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You really are looking for a needle in a haystack - IMHO.
Dozens of cuemakers COULD have - unless you stumble onto someone
who knows, it will remain an unsolved mystery.

Dale
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Mr Hoppe said:
I've never seen a factory Hoppe shaft with a letter stamped into the pilot like that. However, as Macguy is pointing out, many of the butts have 1 or 2 letters stamped into the butt sleeve opposite the label. It's not known what they really mean, but there is loose speculation that they are butts that were special ordered from Brunswick.

Unfortunately, identifying the maker of this shaft will probably prove difficult.
Mr H
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Thanks so much for your help.
 
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