Best Hustle

choppin ur backer...

Deadeye,

I agree with FB that this type of thing happens all the time in poolrooms but if you think about it you might understand why you are being jumped on.

The bartender tried to put you in a game because you said you had no dough. Is this a good reason to steal his money? To me it seems like this is the kind of guy you want on your side.

Most of the time when a big name player steps up and plays for big dollar there is a backer involved. Without trust in the person he is backing why would they make the bet? This is why in the pool gambling environment moves like this are so hated.

Maybe you didn't know???

Dudley
 
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Deadeye said:
What is the best hustle you have ever done?

A friend and I went bar hopping and ended up at this place that a few tables. He started trash talking to me wanting to play me for money. I only had 5 dollars to my name but he wanted to bet higher. I dont bet unless I have it even though he said I was good for it. He wanted a 100 dollar bet. I told we will start off with 5 and by the end of the night I would own his 100 dollars. Well the owner was sitting there watching this and knew I was decent shot. He threw a hundred bill on the table and said Dave your covered. Me and my friend (John) looked at each other. He racked and I broke n ran hooked myself on the 8 missed he ran out and we split the money. I walked out immediatley in disgust (acting of course) and waited in his car.
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So in other words, you dumped the guy who bet on you and split his money. I actually know of two guys killed for that. I wonder if he reads this site. Your story has enough details for him to know who you are or someone who happened to witness it and may print out your post for him to read. Personally, if he opened your head like a coconut I could care less.
 
It's bad enough to be sleazy enough to CHEAT!!! someone out of their money when they trust you, but bragging to the whole pool world about being a cheat is just STUPID!!! You, my friend are I.Q. challenged!
 
Dudley said:
Deadeye,

I agree with FB that this type of thing happens all the time in poolrooms but if you think about it you might understand why you are being jumped on.

The bartender tried to put you in a game because you said you had no dough. Is this a good reason to steal his money? To me it seems like this is the kind of guy you want on your side.

Most of the time when a big name player steps up and plays for big dollar there is a backer involved. Without trust in the person he is backing why would they make the bet? This is why in the pool gambling environment moves like this are so hated.

Maybe you didn't know???

Dudley
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I never looked at it like that
 
Deadeye said:
I never looked at it like that
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This is why I have been careful to not too aggressively knock you in this thread....

I thought you might have no idea.

If you look at all the posts made in response to your story (and other posts in this forum about this subject) I think you could learn allot.

Dudley

(Most take this very seriously)
 
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best hustle.

Best hustle for myself is anytime when I dont bring my own cue and shoot with a house / bar cue. :grin:
 
Wasn't going to say anything that hasn't been said already, but this makes me shake my head. Pretty sure I wouldn't want to play pool with this guy too long, unless I was wearing a flak jacket.
 
Deadeye said:
What is the best hustle you have ever done?

A friend and I went bar hopping and ended up at this place that a few tables. He started trash talking to me wanting to play me for money. I only had 5 dollars to my name but he wanted to bet higher. I dont bet unless I have it even though he said I was good for it. He wanted a 100 dollar bet. I told we will start off with 5 and by the end of the night I would own his 100 dollars. Well the owner was sitting there watching this and knew I was decent shot. He threw a hundred bill on the table and said Dave your covered. Me and my friend (John) looked at each other. He racked and I broke n ran hooked myself on the 8 missed he ran out and we split the money. I walked out immediatley in disgust (acting of course) and waited in his car.
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This person put himself in a win-win situation. If he posted this thread only because he
wanted to post something, then he is a retard. If it's true what he said, that makes him
a thief.
 
Brilliant

Fatboy said:
Good to see you Russ, hope you been good.:smile::smile:

this isnt directed at you Russ, below is my opinion-to be clear.:smile:

Like I said in this thread befor, its just best left not talked about. There is a lot of "Biz" in pool, anyone who thinks otherwise just hasnt been around very long or been out and about. Like the Derby for example, I've been tossed off by a guy I put in the box there one time, big deal. It happens, the best situation is knowing about the "Biz" and getting rail bets down-easier said than done, information is great.

There is a fine line between a hustle and fraud, the net result is the same. Its just word games. The OP was just blatent about chopping up the bar tender, never chop up the house man! Get the house man on your team hire him and you'll get protection as well as action, unless the house man is double steering you.

While I dont agree with what the OP did, I dont think its as bad as he made it sound. I wasnt there so I can only go by his post.

When anyone of us as people aquire money, someone lost it. (unless they are counterfitters:wink:). With all $$$ transactions there is gain and loss. You can justify your gain if your a barbarber and cut someones hair for $20. The barbarber gains $20, the customer lost $20. Fair deal. Thats in the service industry. If you trade merchandice for $$$ you are a merchant and every move is done with a profit motive, the buyer is the loser of the $$$ but gains the property. All this is nice and warm fuzzy, PC, idealistic facts.

It gets henky when someone aquires $$$ and the other person gets nothing for it(perhaps a life lession). Look at the tragic death/murder of Mike last week, It appears that robbery was the motive. Or drug $$$, desperate people do desperate unthinkable things as in that case. That is the worst possible conduct anyone can commit. He robbed Mike of all he was and everything he was going to be. RIP Mike.

Down a notch from the most extreme circumstance as noted above, is figuring out how to extract $$$ from someone(or a business) and provide little or nothing in return. If you sell your car and take all the $$$ and go bet it on a hand of 21 and lose the casino just won your car and you got NOTHING in return. If someone steals your car your in the exact same spot. The only difference is one act was against your will, the other was your plan. One is illegal the other is legal, the results are the same.

The perception of the method of aquireing $$$ is all i'm talking about. So when you match up with someone playing $100 sets any sane person thinks they have the best of it, both sides do thats why its called gambling. When the set is over and the score is 11-9 did the winner earn the $$$? what if it was 11-0? did he rob the guy? The results are the same. Its our perception that is different nothing else. If you win 11-0 and the guy calls tails for a 2nd set, do you say "you cant win I'll give you the 5 ball"? Or are you happy because you KNOW your going to win $100 more. What would you do in that spot? You do whats best for yourself. We all do. When its cold outside we come inside to a warm room. Its human nature.


there is a very blurry line between hustling and fraud. And in the modern era on mincing up words trying to make our selves look PC and all that BS, it all boils down to the same result. Some will win others will lose-buyer beware. You have to have a con in this land of milk and honey or your just not going to survive, unless we become a communist nation.:mad:
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Well Put.................I would never do what the OP did though but I am well aware that it happens very often in the pool world on all different levels.
 
What!!

well now that you have some insight about your so called "hustle", you should find a way to get that money back to the bartender, like going back there and winning your friends money and letting your "backer" win this time. don't forget he works for his money and probably made no money the night you hustled him,then i might forgive what you did as a lesson learned. jmho
 
Wow everybody in here is acting like hustling is supposed to be honorable. The owner put up his money, nobody asked him to do it. He was con'd out of it. That is a hustle. It's not like he was taking him into a pool hall to back him. Was this wrong...yes, but so is hustling. Husting is taking peoples money via deception. If he took pickpocketed the bar owner when he wasn't looking that is stealing. The bar owner willing risked his money on his own accord ergo this was a hustle.
 
Deadeye said:
What is the best hustle you have ever done?

A friend and I went bar hopping and ended up at this place that a few tables. He started trash talking to me wanting to play me for money. I only had 5 dollars to my name but he wanted to bet higher. I dont bet unless I have it even though he said I was good for it. He wanted a 100 dollar bet. I told we will start off with 5 and by the end of the night I would own his 100 dollars. Well the owner was sitting there watching this and knew I was decent shot. He threw a hundred bill on the table and said Dave your covered. Me and my friend (John) looked at each other. He racked and I broke n ran hooked myself on the 8 missed he ran out and we split the money. I walked out immediatley in disgust (acting of course) and waited in his car.
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Nice talkin' to ya. Later.................
 
honor in gambling and hustling

i gamble by the rules of poker
it is your duty to misrepresent your hand,
that doesn't make you a cheater
i have known many pool hustlers you could leave your bankroll with
i have known many businessmen you couldn't
If you can make a straight flush look like a pair of deuces or
get the 8 from someone who needs the 7,i call that clever gaming.
YOU CAN ONLY BEAT SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO BEAT YOU

But i wish dumpers and cheaters would stay away from the game i adore.
They should trade in their cues for a sock full of gravel and mug drunks
and old ladies. ...JUST MY OPINION
 
So.....I wonder why sometimes....but nah...doesn't really matter.

Curious nonetheless....why create a second screen name when you already have Das928 and your last post was on 10/27...but deadeye was created on the 26th.

Is there any credible explanation?


Talk fast.
 
Junkyarddog said:
Wow everybody in here is acting like hustling is supposed to be honorable. The owner put up his money, nobody asked him to do it. He was con'd out of it. That is a hustle. It's not like he was taking him into a pool hall to back him. Was this wrong...yes, but so is hustling. Husting is taking peoples money via deception. If he took pickpocketed the bar owner when he wasn't looking that is stealing. The bar owner willing risked his money on his own accord ergo this was a hustle.
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I agree....one of the best players I know does this all of the time and he's proud of it...I don't think it makes him good...I think it makes him a lowlife. Beat someone if you can but don't steal the mans money and make like you were special. It's the one thing I've always found distasteful about pool.
 
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