Help with leveling table

Andrew Henson

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My new diamond 7 ft is rolling off just a tad. It's probably from me bumping in to it. Any suggestions? What size wrench do I need? Which way lowers and raises it? I need to buy a level suggestions?
 
Can't go wrong with a starrett, but if you're not going to use it for anything leveling your table every once in a while, may not be worth the expense although there is always alot of them on ebay these days it seems....
Which model of Diamond do you have?
Sometimes it's easier to level from the legs, and sometimes it requires dropping the aprons and working the shims under the slate with a drill. Or ALOT of ratchet turning.
Depends upon the ball roll, where it's at, and model of the table-
 
For 4-corner leveling, you can use a water level and get accuracy within about 1mm between any two points on the table. Fill a 10' stretch of clear 1/4" tubing with water, except for about 6" at each end. Shake all bubbles out. Water level at each end of the tube will be true level. Read bottom of meniscus.Set combo squares, or something similar, solid on the table at the two points to be leveled. You and your partner need to read at the same height off of the table.

It ain't a machinist level, but it was good enough to build the pyramids.

You can google water level or tube level if you have never used one. Don't put food coloring in the water, as it will stain if you spill. Cap the tubing with your thumb when you move it, or you will spill a little.
 
For 4-corner leveling, you can use a water level and get accuracy within about 1mm between any two points on the table. Fill a 10' stretch of clear 1/4" tubing with water, except for about 6" at each end. Shake all bubbles out. Water level at each end of the tube will be true level. Read bottom of meniscus.Set combo squares, or something similar, solid on the table at the two points to be leveled. You and your partner need to read at the same height off of the table.

It ain't a machinist level, but it was good enough to build the pyramids.

You can google water level or tube level if you have never used one. Don't put food coloring in the water, as it will stain if you spill. Cap the tubing with your thumb when you move it, or you will spill a little.

Just a simple question - do you work on tables for a living or as a hobby?
 
My new diamond 7 ft is rolling off just a tad. It's probably from me bumping in to it. Any suggestions? What size wrench do I need? Which way lowers and raises it? I need to buy a level suggestions?

you might not need a level. Just raise the side that's the ball is rolling to. take a 3/4" wrench, in the level slot is two nuts, use the top nut, if your raising the left leg you turn towards the table, if your raising the right leg pull towards you. Make a small adjustment 1/8 of a full rotation. And play on it for a while before making another adjustment. Shane, cuephoric, was taking about making slate foundation adjustments, I only recommend a mechanic with Diamond experience to be making this adjustment.

to determine the right and left leg, position yourself at the head or foot of the table.
 
you might not need a level. Just raise the side that's the ball is rolling to. take a 3/4" wrench, in the level slot is two nuts, use the top nut, if your raising the left leg you turn towards the table, if your raising the right leg pull towards you. Make a small adjustment 1/8 of a full rotation. And play on it for a while before making another adjustment. Shane, cuephoric, was taking about making slate foundation adjustments, I only recommend a mechanic with Diamond experience to be making this adjustment.

to determine the right and left leg, position yourself at the head or foot of the table.

Slight leg adjustments are probably all that's needed as you mentioned but
read the posts in this thread for several ways to level tables. :rolleyes:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=169983
 
Just a simple question - do you work on tables for a living or as a hobby?

That is a fair question. The answer is that I don't actually work on any table that I did not personally mill the rails for. I don't claim to be a professional mechanic.

The OP is looking for a way to level, presumably without spending a bundle on precision levels or lasers. I provided a cheap and accurate solution. If you have a better one, then pony up.

Now I have a question for you. When I order supplies from poolfelt.com, they get shipped from a different wholesale outfit in the Quad Cities, not from Rockford. What is up with that?
 
That is a fair question. The answer is that I don't actually work on any table that I did not personally mill the rails for. I don't claim to be a professional mechanic.

The OP is looking for a way to level, presumably without spending a bundle on precision levels or lasers. I provided a cheap and accurate solution. If you have a better one, then pony up.

Now I have a question for you. When I order supplies from poolfelt.com, they get shipped from a different wholesale outfit in the Quad Cities, not from Rockford. What is up with that?

Actually - it was a simple y/n question whether you work on tables ft or pt. No agenda there.
An adjustable leg table with a "tad" of rolloff (per OP) is usually fixed with a slight leg adjustment. No level needed.
You're welcome to PM me about your question.
 
Now I have a question for you. When I order supplies from poolfelt.com, they get shipped from a different wholesale outfit in the Quad Cities, not from Rockford. What is up with that?

My guess is that you got what you ordered, in the prescribed time frame, for the price you were quoted, and that the products were as described and to your satisfaction. Why do you care which one of poolfelt.com's large, well-maintained, state-of-the-art distribution centers it comes from?
 
It's a 7ft pro am. I used some normal 8" levels but they didn't seem heavy enough. I rolled a ball and adjusted. Didn't spend that much time on it but its better. I'll work more on it later
 
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