Sandbaggin thief !!!

[D_Lewis]

CPA does suck but from what I see, TAP sucks as well. How can you not see a 3 winning game after game ? As a TD you should monitor and look at these things and as a LO for TAP you should have some knowledge and see the difference between luck and sandbagging.

I'm not defending Matt nor the TD. They both ****ed up IMO

The tournament was an independant tournament that used both CPA and TAP handicaps. It wasnt a TAP tournament and Matt doesnt have a TAP handicap.

Because it seems TAP is a little bit tougher handicap wise, the TD let borderline players enter in at the lower handicap. (it seems)

 

[supergreenman]

Thank you! Matt came in at low handicap, that is agreed upon. But it was communicated to us that if you go from the CPA to the TAP league you can play one handicap lower. We also thought this was applicable to the tournament as well, I brought this up in an earlier posting. He bounced between 3 to 5 in 8 ball. At the time we left for tournament, with website not being updated, Matt was a 4, I believe. So, with the adjustment of one handicap lower he played as a three. I would like to ask everyone who is badmouthing Matt, to politely stop it. He is a good kid, that is full of good intentions. I like George, I think he is a great person and is a very good pool player, I just think the handicap issue was clouded and not run efficiently due to the fact that the TAP league wants to invade CPA territory in Scarborough. That is my opinion and I could be wrong, but I am still entitled to it. Thank you.

Very good pool players aren't rated as 3s in either CPA, APA or TAP.

 

[vladmin]

Just a couple of quick things after getting some clarifications last nite from a very trustworthy source

- Matt was informed of his handicap by John C. (the league operator) of his handicap (lvl 4 on the verge of being 5). This happened before John went on vacation.
- Apparently George allowed everyone to play at a lower handicap than their CPA handicap (hence Jack played as a 6, etc)
- If Matt won it as a 3 ( 1 lvl below his handicap at that moment) then he is good for it.

End of story

 

[poolpro]

Just a couple of quick things after getting some clarifications last nite from a very trustworthy source

- Matt was informed of his handicap by John C. (the league operator) of his handicap (lvl 4 on the verge of being 5). This happened before John went on vacation.
- Apparently George allowed everyone to play at a lower handicap than their CPA handicap (hence Jack played as a 6, etc)
- If Matt won it as a 3 ( 1 lvl below his handicap at that moment) then he is good for it.

End of story

Well, assuming all of that is true and EVERYONE was allowed to play a skill level lower, I would have to agree!

It seems silly to have everyone play lower than they are rated. What is the point of that? Why not just have everyone play at their real handicap then? Were they just trying to shorten the races?

This doesn't sit right though. IF it was an agreed upon understanding that all were allowed to play at a level below their true handicap, why all the fuss about a 3 playing well? Why the bit about the guy being on vacation. Why this thread at all?

Why has no one who was there confirmed that EVERYONE was playing below thier established handicap? Did everyone just forget that they also played one level lower?

I am having a hard time understanding that. It seems odd that players who are playing under their own handicap would cry about another player who is playing below their rating. I am not saying I haven't heard whining, but this seems very strange that after all these posts including many who were there and played that it has not come up that EVERYONE was doing the same thing.


Jw

 

[Jason Robichaud]

handicaps suck anyways... a 7 in one league might only be a 4 in another. Best way to judge handicap is get them to play the ghost. Start with 9 balls and keep taking balls off until they win or add until they lose. Problem is, who wants to take that kind of time. I would be 10, never beat the 11 ball. The race would go to your handicap, winner break. Being a 10 I would race to 9+1(give them 8 ball). An 11 9+2 would race to 9 and give the 7.

 

[Shortside K]

problem solved... Not!

handicaps suck anyways... a 7 in one league might only be a 4 in another. Best way to judge handicap is get them to play the ghost. Start with 9 balls and keep taking balls off until they win or add until they lose. Problem is, who wants to take that kind of time. I would be 10, never beat the 11 ball. The race would go to your handicap, winner break. Being a 10 I would race to 9+1(give them 8 ball). An 11 9+2 would race to 9 and give the 7.

No potential for sandbagging here...

 

[vladmin]

Not to worry, he did it again

He won the single boards qualifiers in CPA so Matt's going to Vegas ... I really dont think this is more than a mere coincidence

 

[tarcisio]

I would like to give my congratulations to Matt and all his Backers (GALLEYMAN), I hope he has a wonderful time there. Remember Matt what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But also you remember this.. What goes around comes around.

 

[D_Lewis]

Offer still stands for ANY CPA sandbagger to come play some 8 ball.

 

[Jason Robichaud]

Offer still stands for ANY CPA sandbagger to come play some 8 ball.

How much are u looking to play for? I can sandbag a CPA handicap, is a 3 ok?

 

[The Beginner]

Offer still stands for ANY CPA sandbagger to come play some 8 ball.

Dan im a 2....so do we have a match? ..100 meters run..lmao.

 

[D_Lewis]

How much are u looking to play for? I can sandbag a CPA handicap, is a 3 ok?

Do you think it will be worth the expense to play me?

Dan im a 2....so do we have a match? ..100 meters run..lmao.

Yes, you can have a spot.

I'll spot you 100 meters in a 1500 race.

 

[dbl or nothing?]

This dead?
Sounds like a great idea to me?? might have to join this cpa league? season of left handed play could help my game out...

So??? is there a big payday tourny, like Canadians or something? that I can play as a 3?

Watched the local cpa "team play offs" bunch of bums hoggn' the tables at the pool hall..

 

[seether]

HIS NAME IS MATT VRAAGH OR SOMETHING WITH THOSE LETTERS FROM PETERBOROUGH !!! HE JUST ROBBED THE TOURNAMENT AT ON CUE BILLIARDS AND GOT OVER 800$ WITH THE CALCUTTA LAST SAT WITHOUT A CHALLENGE FROM ANYBODY !!! FIRST OF ALL GEORGE HAD NO PROOF THAT HE WAS A 3 HANDICAP IN CPA AND HE JUST TOOK HIS WORD FOR IT !!! BIG MISTAKE !!! I'LL BET THAT IF U CHECK cpasouthont.com U'LL PROBABLY FIND HIM AS A 5 HANDICAP AT LEAST !!! HE PLAYS OUT OF PETRINAS I HEARD AND SOMEBODY SHOULD ASK FRANK KAKOUROS WHAT HIS REAL HANDICAP IS !!! HE SHOULD KNOW !!! SO ALL U GUYS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR THIS GUY MATT AND DON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS !!! GEORGE, YA GOTTA DO YOUR HOMEWORK MAN !!! OTHERWISE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN !!! :angry:

I dont care fore the sandbagging weasal,alwright.