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I am have alot of trouble staying focus. I don't know if I am feeling rushed or what but for some reason I lose focus and don't even see it until I have already made my shot. Is there any tips you can give me to help me stay focused?
 
Maybe I need to say that a little different. What I mean is when you are approaching the table and going through your routine what do you do to regain focus on the shot without worrying about the preshot routine?
 
I do that a lot.

I need glasses however lol

Sam Diepp did a short video and basically explained that each player has a different way of that part of the routine.
Some focus OB,CB,OB CB --set-OB___pull the trigger. Target is in there somewhere.Possibly OB, target(pocket),CB OB (pocket )CB, set shoot.?
What ever works for you.

The order and final is a personal deal everybody's different if you don't have that part figured out check out her clip and go from there.

Hope this helps --it helped me out, a critical shot may require a different order of events .


Chris
 
do all of your thinking and make all of your decisions while you are still standing. This is all a left brain function, and does not require intense focus.
Practice your shooting routines to the point where you don't have to think about them....make them automatic.
Once you have that done, the act of shooting requires no more thought, and you can allow yourself to focus on nothing but delivering the cue ball to the point you need it to get to.

Think before shooting, then shoot without thinking.

Steve
 
Whether different players have a different PEP (if they even have one) is probably not arguable. Whether they should do something else, in a specific nature (according to how the eyes work best with the brain) is not arguable. MOST players will benefit from a specific eye pattern. We teach two different ones, and let the student choose between the two.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I do that a lot.

I need glasses however lol

Sam Diepp did a short video and basically explained that each player has a different way of that part of the routine.
Some focus OB,CB,OB CB --set-OB___pull the trigger. Target is in there somewhere.Possibly OB, target(pocket),CB OB (pocket )CB, set shoot.?
What ever works for you.

The order and final is a personal deal everybody's different if you don't have that part figured out check out her clip and go from there.

Hope this helps --it helped me out, a critical shot may require a different order of events .


Chris
 
You can practice shifting your focus, and increasing your concentration, by simply looking at a small object and seeing everything there is to see about that object. Size, shapes, textures, colors, angles, movement,... Do this often, and you'll notice that you can narrow your focus easier and quicker when you want to.
 
Sam Diepp did a short video and basically explained that each player has a different way of that part of the routine.
Some focus OB,CB,OB CB --set-OB___pull the trigger. Target is in there somewhere.Possibly OB, target(pocket),CB OB (pocket )CB, set shoot.?
What ever works for you.

Chris

This video is gold, i am a novice player, but since i started following this kind of routine, i am able to pocket 3-4 balls at a time with ease.

i get that feeling of being rushed to, but i find that when i set my cue to the cue ball, if i take a slow breath i tend to be able to focus much easier.

Id watch that video and try to get your own set.
 
I am have alot of trouble staying focus. I don't know if I am feeling rushed or what but for some reason I lose focus and don't even see it until I have already made my shot. Is there any tips you can give me to help me stay focused?

Million Dollar Question, find the Answer, and put it in a $19.99 DVD.
 
Is this not America?

Million Dollar Question, find the Answer, and put it in a $19.99 DVD.

come on cowboy....you know you can just take a pill to find focus...hell theres a pill for everything in this country lol.


You should learn to focus more in your daily life, and the things you do. Hell you can sharpen your focus while driving. You can't find focus b/c you let your mind be lackadaisical. Use your daily life as a testing ground for learning to focus to the fullest extent on the task at hand.

Hell your going to shoot better, you could get a big raise, find a better woman or get a better job....just b/c you learned to focus, be alert and aware.

keep up the good work,
Grey Ghost
 
Learning to focus is one of my biggest problems also. One thing that I've found extremely helpful is to ... umm, what question was I answering?
 
I am have alot of trouble staying focus. I don't know if I am feeling rushed or what but for some reason I lose focus and don't even see it until I have already made my shot. Is there any tips you can give me to help me stay focused?


Sometimes it not that you are lacking focus, it is that your mind is lacking direction. For instance. When you get to the table, look at the spread, find the difficult spots and try to figure out how you want to attack the problem.
Next, direct your attention/mind on pack of threes. By pack of threes I mean, three balls. People try to focus on the whole rack all in once, which will mislead and confuse your brain. Work on pack of threes, if you work those three as thought out, than take a quick overview of the table again and start on the next pack. Once you get the hang of it, you will find that the game will be much easier and you will keep your focus longer.
 
do all of your thinking and make all of your decisions while you are still standing. This is all a left brain function, and does not require intense focus.
Practice your shooting routines to the point where you don't have to think about them....make them automatic.
Once you have that done, the act of shooting requires no more thought, and you can allow yourself to focus on nothing but delivering the cue ball to the point you need it to get to.

Think before shooting, then shoot without thinking.

Steve

This is what I try to teach and in my own experience this works well. The key here is to always do this and recognize when you skipped this first step and as some one said here, "RESET". That also requires a lot of focus and discipline, probably more so. The ego/mind will do this (pre shot routine) a hundred times in a row and grant you success in shot making, then it will send messages like "Don't worry about this shot, its easy, just shoot it" (thats over confidence, which equal carelessness)Then BAM! you will miss that super easy ball and the very voice that told you to be careless, will now tell you to be angry at yourself for missing that simpleton shot...Here is the key to rectify the problem. Forgive yourself 100% and start on a clean slate, do this before the next shot...DO NOT sit in your chair and play the broken record of "You idiot you just cost yourself the match because you missed that shot":angry:
 
You bring up a good point that is rarely discussed or even thought about. Put it behind you! That goes for the good shots as well as the poor ones. Maybe even more so with the super shots that give you that feeling of elation along with a shot of adreneline. How many times have you seen someone make a great shot, and then immediately dog the next reletively easy shot?

If you are thinking about the last shot, you aren't focused on the one in front of you!

Steve
 
Exactly, you don't let one shot influence the next one. Because essentially they are no longer relevant to one another. That ball is pocketed and gone and out of the present moment.
Its like trading, one trade does not influence the next. If you just made a great trade, that doesnt mean hold on to a losing/bad trade longer because you have "xtra" money to burn.

Yes Iam guilty of making a great shot and then missing the duck in the same game. :p Mainly that is due to treating shots differently. A shot that is hard to make, you take your time, you aim more precisely,etc...Its bad IMO and a disaster for developing a inconsistent game. If you think important shots need extra attention then treat all shots as they are important.

In my particular case, if I try to take my time and give a shot too much attention, I usually miss anyway, because over thinking a shot for me can cause the rhythm in my stroke to go sour.

How many times have you seen a half decent player run a rack up to the nine in 1 minute flat and then miss the nine ball duck. What does that player usually do, they take xtra time (xtra strokes and double check the aim) to pocket that ball because their brain tells them, this shot is really important, yet they just made every shot and shape without thinking twice and did it effortlessly. Or vice versa, they shoot the money ball really fast before the brain has time to send negative possibilities down the pipe.
I have literally heard players say "I have to shoot this fast before I start thinking about it" Its almost profound so say such a thing.... I have tried that shoot fast technique as well, but that too will just add another factor of inconsistency to your game.

Thats why its worth it to have someone else train and watch what you do while you shoot. Someone that has a keen eye, ability to recognize stroking patterns, body language, shot times, every little nuance...
 
Whether different players have a different PEP (if they even have one) is probably not arguable. Whether they should do something else, in a specific nature (according to how the eyes work best with the brain) is not arguable. MOST players will benefit from a specific eye pattern. We teach two different ones, and let the student choose between the two.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I've been using the PEP based on what I hear described on this forum (hope I describe it right) "Cue ball only (during warm-up strokes) then object ball.

Could you please describe the second PEP?
 
I am have alot of trouble staying focus. I don't know if I am feeling rushed or what but for some reason I lose focus and don't even see it until I have already made my shot. Is there any tips you can give me to help me stay focused?

I hope it’s ok to post in this section since I'm just a banger but I struggle with that same issue as I am sure a lot of players do. Here are a couple of tips that have helped me out tremendously with focus.

Try not to multitask and throw yourself 100% into performing the task at hand. What I am getting at is that we all multitask. We hold conversations with people like co-workers yet at the same time we have the ability to run track 2 in our heads and can be thinking about what we are going to be doing after work simultaneously. We all do it. Next time you zone out on the table ask yourself if you were really concentrating on the task at hand or did you flip over to track 2 briefly and loose the moment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYbg--ridE

Another thing is visualization skills. It’s huge. Don’t just think about how you are going to shoot the shot while standing. Visualize it and then once you have that picture in your head, perform the act with confidence before the vision slips away. IMHO, Jack Nicklaus put it best.

"I never hit a shot, not even in practice, without having a very sharp, in-focus picture of it in my head. It's like a color movie. First, I see the ball where I want it to finish, nice and white and sitting up high on the bright green grass. Then the scene quickly changes and I "see" the ball going there: its path, trajectory, and shape, even its behavior on landing. Then there's sort of a fade-out, and the next scene shows me making the kind of swing that will turn the previous images into reality. Only at the end of this short, private, Hollywood spectacular do I select a club and step up to the ball."

Cheers,

Dave
 
accustatsfan...Both suggested eye patterns operate on the same principle, of focusing on the aim point on the CB for 2 seconds, and the aim point on the OB for 2 seconds. This happens after you are lined up, with your cuestick stopped, and your tip very close to the CB...but BEFORE you begin your warmup cycle. Then you look only at the CB while you move your cue in your warmups, and stop again, with the tip very close to the CB. The two different eye patterns are describing when you look up at the OB, before you stroke through the CB...either before you start your last backswing (Set position), or after the backswing is completed (Pause position). With the latter, a longer pause is necessary, because your eyes have to reacquire the target (which takes 2 seconds). What you try not to do, is look up while you're moving you cue in your backswing...it should be stopped at either place. This ensures that focus has been established, and helps the shooter stay down on the shot. Once your eyes go to the OB, on the final stroke, they stay on the OB until the shot is complete. Hope this helps.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I've been using the PEP based on what I hear described on this forum (hope I describe it right) "Cue ball only (during warm-up strokes) then object ball.

Could you please describe the second PEP?
 
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accustatsfan...Both suggested eye patterns operate on the same principle, of focusing on the aim point on the CB for 2 seconds, and the aim point on the OB for 2 seconds. This happens after you are lined up, with your cuestick stopped, and your tip very close to the CB...but BEFORE you begin your warmup cycle. Then you look only at the CB while you move your cue in your warmups, and stop again, with the tip very close to the CB. The two different eye patterns are describing when you look up at the OB, before you stroke through the CB...either before you start your last backswing (Set position), or after the backswing is completed (Pause position). With the latter, a longer pause is necessary, because your eyes have to reacquire the target (which takes 2 seconds). What you try not to do, is look up while you're moving you cue in your backswing...it should be stopped at either place. This ensures that focus has been established, and helps the shooter stay down on the shot. Once your eyes go to the OB, on the final stroke, they stay on the OB until the shot is complete. Hope this helps.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Thank you I was looking for a consistent routine.

So I've been practicing Eye on object ball for aim, Cue ball, Cue ball, Cue ball, Object ball, Back swing, Finish.

Working well in practice haven't had the opportunity to see how it holds up under pressure.
 
The more you use it in practice, the more it becomes your natural eye movement in competition.

We practice to develop habits that can take over under pressure. If you have to think about it when you are playing, you are in trouble.

Steve
 
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