Update on the Des Moines pool scene

Yay for surgeries...I get to have a pin put in my left pinky and possibly the ring finger as well next Tuesday. They are numbing my arm (like the stranger) for about 12 hours lol....good times.
 
Might as well have them put in the robotic right arm and the laser eyeball while your there, ala Steve Austin.

We can rebuild him, we have the technology

The lengths folks will go to in pursuit of improving their pool game... :grin: J/k, best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 
Jason Chance and I are off to Tusla today to play in the big one pocket tournament. If anyone wants to watch it, it's going to be live streamed by bigtruck. I think I saw that you could watch all 4 days for $20.

Wish us luck!
 
see..you gotta use your pimp hand, instead of a fist when the women start acting like a fool. in any case, hope she learned a lesson. J/K bro, what happend anyway?


big H
 
see..you gotta use your pimp hand, instead of a fist when the women start acting like a fool. in any case, hope she learned a lesson. J/K bro, what happend anyway?


big H

A buddy of mine made a smart ass comment so I decided to thump the back of his leg with my fist....I guess I hit him harder then I thought lol. I thought it was just a sprain, but low and behold I tore the tendon on the pinky pulling a piece of bone backwards and also tore the tendon on the ring finger, but no bone break on that one. This was about 4 weeks ago. It will be a big pain in the ass if I don't get it fixed since everytime I bump it, or grab something out of my pocket, or try the stranger it will hurt lol. NOT A POOL FIX...
 
Jason Chance and I are off to Tusla today to play in the big one pocket tournament. If anyone wants to watch it, it's going to be live streamed by bigtruck. I think I saw that you could watch all 4 days for $20.

Wish us luck!

Best of luck - send us some updates on how you guys do.
 
LOL I just googled "the stranger" and that's hilarious. Spimp juice you are insane.

Good luck to the crew going to Tulsa. Someone text me and let me know how much Scott Frost and some of the others go for in the Calcutta. With those heavy hitters my guess is the Players Auction will raise in excess of $20k!!!! Especially since people are pumped up after the DCC. Plus a lot of the guys who lost money will be in Tulsa chasing it. I'll be glued to the stream all weekend for sure.

Make sure to send me good lines for sweat bets!
 
Man up !!!

WOW... Understand... Pool is a sport... which means the people that put in the time to learn.. ultimately get better and play better. This doesn't mean that they are cheating. If you can't beat someone... put in the time to LEARN... instead of trying to make up rules that make the game easier for you ( the weaker/more lazy player ). Remember the rules of 9 ball...the 1 in front...9 in middle... tight rack... break!!! If you learn how hard to break, from which angle, which order the other balls are racked....GOOD FOR YOU!!! You've put in your time on the table.... You deserve to win...

QUIT BEING A PUSSY....

When Tiger raised the bar, they didn't try changing the rules so that the rest of the players had a chance... they learned how play better and how to make their game better.

:cool:

That's a funny way to do it. I much rather prefer to move the balls and call it out. That way you can get told by people whether they think it's okay to do it. Here's what you will find out, similar to what I found out.

The people running the tournament of it are in favor of it. Then you'll find about 7-8 others like Tony Ehlers, Anthony, Jimmy, Theo, and a couple others also like to pattern rack and actually think that's part of rack your own. Anthony actually said what's the point of racking your own balls if you can't make sure they go where you want them to. Pretty funny right.

Then you'll find out the majority of the rest of the people are totally clueless as to what a pattern rack even is and how it can give an unfair advantage. Ignorance is bliss in this case.

Then there are a few like us and your brother that think it's total crap. Others even wondered whether or not it was legal to do it, once they found out it is legal, they say they will be doing it too.

When I came here the Sunday tourney had 50 something people every week. First 3 weeks of this year looks like they are averaging less than half of that. If you look up the payouts online you'll see that this year's year end tourney had about a $1000 less added money to it than in 2008. At some point you have to look at the big picture and make some tough decisions.

I kind of feared with the 9 on break going away that this issue would come up more. Oddly I noticed a lot less 9 balls flying towards the corner pockets on Sunday, you think the rule change impacted that? How's about we all just man up and have a good fair tournament that everyone can enjoy and have fun at. It's easy to blame the ball sets we play with for the 9 on the snaps but that rule is out the window.

Once again I ask the same question, if there is no advantage to pattern racking than why pattern rack at all?

When is the finals of this year end tourney going online? I'll be using that as my training tape.
 
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When Tiger raised the bar, they didn't try changing the rules so that the rest of the players had a chance... they learned how play better and how to make their game better.

:cool:

Um, actually they did. They have attempted to "Tiger-proof" many courses by lengthening holes, narrowing landing areas, adding trees, adding bunkers,etc. All in an attempt to slow him down a bit and bring the rest of the field a little closer. :wink:
 
WOW... Understand... Pool is a sport... which means the people that put in the time to learn.. ultimately get better and play better. This doesn't mean that they are cheating. If you can't beat someone... put in the time to LEARN... instead of trying to make up rules that make the game easier for you ( the weaker/more lazy player ). Remeber the rules of 9 ball...the 1 in front...9 in middle... tight rack... break!!! If you learn how hard to break, from which angle, which order the other balls are racked....GOOD FOR YOU!!! You've put in your time on the table.... You deserve to win...

QUIT BEING A PUSSY....

When Tiger raised the bar, they didn't try changing the rules so that the rest of the players had a chance... they learned how play better and how to make their game better.

:cool:

That's pretty funny. Like I said earlier, ignorance is bliss. Some guys don't understand how to play with a full deck.

I'll take a minute and enlighten you though since you woke up and drank some idiot juice. Before SVB and Scott Frost played they did negotiations. Part of the negotiations were the cue ball. SVB wanted the measles ball Scott wanted the Red Dot. In exchange for playing with the Red Dot Scott agreed to allow SVB to pattern rack. SVB broke the balls hard but how many times did he run out just about the same pattern? I think SVB is supposed to win but is he supposed to win by 46 games? Let me guess you watched in amazement and couldn't tell what the gaffe was the entire match, you were just in awe of SVB huh?

Even better for you Mr. Hearl you got to go to Florida and watch some of the Donny Mills Vs. SVB match didn't you? Would you argue that Donny Mills is roughly the same talent level as SVB? My guess is no and you'd be right. However he does pattern rack with a break from the box much better than SVB does. The whole point of the match was can SVB outrun the best pattern racker in the country at his own game. Luckily SVB got hot and Donny fell apart or it would have been almost no contest at all who wins that match. Donny would crush SVB at the game if they played it day in and day out.

Why don't you go ask your instructor Mr. Randy G. what he thinks about it? Hint hint, I already know the answer. I can also give you a list of good players to call if you want to know whether it is the right way to play the game or not. I can also forward you a voicemail from a pro player if you want to know their thoughts on the topic. Point being pattern racking is cheating and no where near a reflection of skill. It's supposed to be you versus the table, not you versus what you put on the table. Your logic is ass backwards and your arguments sound like a kindergartner...you gotta step your game way up to spar with me.

P.S. I guess you don't know why soft breaking isn't allowed at major tournaments either, Corey Deull.

Okay done ****ing you for now, I left the money on the nightstand.
 
It's against the rules plain and simple dumb A**. Try learning the rules before you spout off.

Brian, i know you're new to the forums and what not. But who are you to tell someone to learn to play the game ? Who in the hell can you beat not in the APA pool league with a handicap to help you ? You need to follow a simple rule i have for running your lip on here, if you're not willing to do it at big dogs, then shut the **** up.......you dont say boo to anyone.

And no i dont think im some champ, but anytime you wanna play some $100 sets, let me know........i got plenty to post up.
 
Unfortunately that is the way this game is. Just as there are in life, there will always be people trying to find a way to cheat the system. Maybe that's one of the reasons this sport will never be noticed by the Olympic committee. There are just too many variables.

You must make a choice. You either follow the rules and call out the people that aren't, or you adapt. Sometimes you play the table, and sometimes you play your opponents.... And sometimes you have to play both. Good players don't give up.... They adapt.
 
Unfortunately that is the way this game is. Just as there are in life, there will always be people trying to find a way to cheat the system. Maybe that's one of the reasons this sport will never be noticed by the Olympic committee. There are just too many variables.

You must make a choice. You either follow the rules and call out the people that aren't, or you adapt. Sometimes you play the table, and sometimes you play your opponents.... And sometimes you have to play both. Good players don't give up.... They adapt.

Be a chameleon! I can't help it I just like to see the guys who throw the balls in the rack, get them tight, and break them.

I feel like it's a valuable practice tool. If you are trying to guage the consistency of how you break the balls you need some sort of reference point. I don't agree with it for competitive play.

I hear Olathe people will be pattern racking their way through the tournament. I even heard yesterday that if it's good enough for Olathe it's good enough for the Sunday Tournament.

Can't argue with progress right?:embarrassed2:
 
What's the news from Tulsa?

I lost in 2 but I did have a nice long match with Andy Gilbert. I lost 4-2 to him before getting blown out by Jose Parica 4-0.

Jason started out a little slow his first match against Rafael Martinez, losing the first 3 games. He made some great escapes and runs to tie the match up at 3 before losing the hill game. He battled hard his next match to win a long 4-2 and was right back up against Cliff Joyner. I think he was a little weary. He didn't play his best game and Cliff beat him 4-0 with only one close game.

We watched Scott play a lot too. He was clearly the best player on the gold crowns in the tournament(he made gabe look silly in their match). The two dead rails on the Diamond really got to him though. He never played good on that table.

Silver had the right idea. He was everyday playing on the Diamond in the tournament and money matches. He was the only player I saw, except for Gabe, who played good on that table.

1st: Silver Ochoa
2nd: Rafael Martinez
3rd: Scott Frost
4th: Jeremy Jones
5th: James Walden
5th: Joey Grey
 
Evelyn Dysart's number is (316) 371-5805. She runs the Midwest 9-Ball Tour. This is the event in Olathe, KS on the 18th.

Please feel free to give her a call and ask her is it legal to pattern rack. I called her and asked her. She told me that if you are called on it that she will come over and rack for you if she has to lol! She said all players are expected to rack the balls randomly.

SOOOOOO....

In Olathe pattern racking is not legal, I REPEAT IS NOT LEGAL. Too much bad information being passed on as truth. In other words, if David Matlock is pattern racking on you, you can tell Evelyn and she will straighten it out for you.

I am spreading the truth, if you don't believe me please call the number and ask for yourself. So let me once again say, our Sunday Tournament is the only tournament I know that openly promotes pattern racking.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen other places. What I am saying is that you as an opposing player can and should call people out on it and the player that is pattern racking has to re rack. If you let yourself get cheated that sucks but you do have a right to put a stop on it.

Once again please refer to BCA and WPA rules for 9-Ball racking.
 
I tried to pattern rack playing myself once, but caught myself trying to do so. I then proceeded to call myself out on it, offered myself the 7 out...declined it...called myself a chicken sh*t...and then proceeded to talk sh*t as my girlfriend gave me my meds. We are no longer friends.
 
Evelyn Dysart's number is (316) 371-5805. She runs the Midwest 9-Ball Tour. This is the event in Olathe, KS on the 18th.

Please feel free to give her a call and ask her is it legal to pattern rack. I called her and asked her. She told me that if you are called on it that she will come over and rack for you if she has to lol! She said all players are expected to rack the balls randomly.

SOOOOOO....

In Olathe pattern racking is not legal, I REPEAT IS NOT LEGAL. Too much bad information being passed on as truth. In other words, if David Matlock is pattern racking on you, you can tell Evelyn and she will straighten it out for you.

I am spreading the truth, if you don't believe me please call the number and ask for yourself. So let me once again say, our Sunday Tournament is the only tournament I know that openly promotes pattern racking.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen other places. What I am saying is that you as an opposing player can and should call people out on it and the player that is pattern racking has to re rack. If you let yourself get cheated that sucks but you do have a right to put a stop on it.

Once again please refer to BCA and WPA rules for 9-Ball racking.

I guess I should have said something to Matlock the last time I played him in Olathe. Instead, I just went ahead and racked the same way he was, since I don't think it really matters anyway, and we played pool. The balls didn't go to the exact same place after every break and believe it or not, I didn't feel "cheated." Looking back at it though, that is probably why he won the match, he had mastered the pattern rack and I hadn't.

Nobody at the Sunday tournament "promotes" pattern racking. It was never a problem before a couple weeks ago.
 
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