Chris
A fictitious character? Tell me more please. I love that blond phenolic and maybe those Searing shafts are nice.
Kevin
Help ID an old cue for a friend...
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Chris
A fictitious character? Tell me more please. I love that blond phenolic and maybe those Searing shafts are nice.
Kevin
Julio Stamboulini was a signature line of cues Adam produced - I think it was in the 1980's. They had several lines where they made up the name of a cue maker, Raymond Calvert was another one.
If you see a full splice cue from the 1970's or 1980's that has a full length handle, chances are it's an Adams Japan cue. Spain mostly made shorties like the kind you bought from Ernie and Brunswick had stopped making them.
By the way, Jayman is always a good person to ask about any Helmstetter/Adam cue.
Chris
Chris
Thanks, you always know.
If I had a clue that it was an Adam I would have went to Jayman, because, as you point out, he's way knowledgeable and always agreeable about helping out.
Its amazing how things go full circle as we were just talking about the Adam full splice blanks in relation to that other cue. When do you think Brunswick stopped making them? Don't worry about derailing Dan's thread as he is as interested in the Adam/Brunswick connection as I am.
Thanks again
Kevin
PS: Tate meet Dan, Dan meet Tate. Dan don't ask me anything because all I do is turn around and ask Tate!
Realy nice Cue. I also think its a Stamboulini made by Adams. With Searing-Shafts it should be a great player! Congrats, your friend has a wonderful cue!
Brunswick closed their operation here sometime in the early 1970's. That's why Palmer had to turn to other sources for forearms. Adam supplied Palmer starting in 1975. They also took over production of the Titlist and Willie Hoppe pro. The full splice Titlist that came out of Japan had more vividly colored veneers and rosewood handle.
Chris
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Chris
You are beautiful. One last question, did Adam supply the blanks to Brunswick and then Brunswick marketed them in the US or did Adam buy the Titlist and Hoppe name and did cue makers order directly from Adam?
Thanks again
Kevin
Again, an amazing resource here...
Some of the members in this site are just an amazing resource.
Kevin, you are right, your friends can ID anything in seconds almost. To think that you all were able to ID a cue made 30 plus years ago in under 12hrs and get it down to the correct model, that's incredible.
To make things even better, being able to give us all a little history lesson on the Brunswick Titlist cues which several of us like and the Japanese made Adams Titlist cues, well that's just awesome. Who knew that some of the old Palmers were made with Japanese made blanks, that's cool. I got to say that I love those old Titlist cues and have been searching for them for years, yet I did not know that there were many of them made overseas.
Thanks to you all,
Dan Z
Some of the members in this site are just an amazing resource.
Kevin, you are right, your friends can ID anything in seconds almost. To think that you all were able to ID a cue made 30 plus years ago in under 12hrs and get it down to the correct model, that's incredible.
To make things even better, being able to give us all a little history lesson on the Brunswick Titlist cues which several of us like and the Japanese made Adams Titlist cues, well that's just awesome. Who knew that some of the old Palmers were made with Japanese made blanks, that's cool. I got to say that I love those old Titlist cues and have been searching for them for years, yet I did not know that there were many of them made overseas.
Thanks to you all,
Dan Z
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My understanding was Brunswick outsourced production to Adam Japan, then distributed the cues through their catalog and dealers. Basically, Adam could make them more efficiently in Japan than Brunswick could here. The Titlists from Japan were above average quality.
Palmer tried making a line for Brunswick as you know - the same idea. The cues were pricey so the idea failed.
Most of the Titlists and Willie Hoppe pros you see are made in America. The new line from Japan did not sell all that well. I don't see the black label Hoppe's - the japanese ones - all that frequently.
During the 1970's many cue makers blossomed, such as Meucci, Viking, McDermott, Adam - and these companies were producing a lot of affordable, popular cues - so production cue competition became fierce.
Chris
Chris
Thanks again for the information.
I know the quality of the Adam Titlist blanks was high, a friend of mine just inquired about an older Tad Titlist from Tad and Tad was quick to point out that the blank he used was a Japanese Titlist and he was referring to it as a source of pride, indicating that he felt the quality was higher with that product.
Thanks again
Kevin
filed under reference section for me....