My tiny carom cue collection
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Nice set of cues. Being a cue dealer has made me somewhat agnostic about what the best cue is for the money. According to Rethunk it appears Dieckman is the best for the money. Far be it from me to argue. He not only thunk it but rethunk it.
There are so many talented carom cuemakers today.
You're wecolme to take a look at my vendors.
There are so many talented carom cuemakers today.
You're wecolme to take a look at my vendors.
I love the Custom Art on the Couch in the First Photo....Cues are very nice also.
I was gonna comment on the couchwork too. Very nice.
Someday I'll have another. I also like the hidden inlays in #2
What's under the rubber?
It nice to see The Dieckman Collectors coming out of the closet. Dieckman built Cues to be play. I Hope you playing with them. As Dieckman will tell you All his cues are imperfected, there only two perfect Cues Dieckman Built. And I won't tell who got them.
Oh! By the way Very nicezzzzzzzzz Collection
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This is my first few carom cues that i have, What do you think? They hit pretty good. Is any one know any cue makers out there make fancy inlaid carom cues that play as good as Dieckman cues? Please let me know, Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Peter.
dIECKMAN<----- nice pictures....quite the compliment.....dont believe I know you......please call me some time convenient for you 734-428-1161 24/7........
Great looking collection!!
Thanks for the nice comments guys, I played them all yesterday and they hit pretty good and very balanced. I am very happy to play with them. The only problem that I have is to choose one to play with. Mr Dieckman, Your cues are tough to beat, I do not believe that I can find a carom cue that plays as good as yours.
I will call you later today.
I will call you later today.
OK
So DD doesn't know who you are.
You sound like you stumbled on to these cues since you don't know which one to play with.
One is rubber wrapped and you won't show it to me.
Or are these someone else's cues.
Thats ok I have not seen any like this before and it's a joy to see.
No DD is alike and this proves it to me.
I know my next one hasn't been done. At least not by the man.
So DD doesn't know who you are.
You sound like you stumbled on to these cues since you don't know which one to play with.
One is rubber wrapped and you won't show it to me.
Or are these someone else's cues.
Thats ok I have not seen any like this before and it's a joy to see.
No DD is alike and this proves it to me.
I know my next one hasn't been done. At least not by the man.
If you want a cue to collect, I don't know a thing about Dieckman cues but perhaps you shall stick with that since they seem to be worth in people's mind for U.S market. Personally, Dieckman cues does not worth a dime to me, because I don't collect. I play.
If you want cues that have proven itself among PLAYERS and PRO PLAYERS, and in European market (where it is normal to have 2000 carom tables and thousands and thousands of 3-c players in a city of 3-4 million)
For a cheaper cue of around $500, I can suggest EURASIA brand (Semih Sayginer played with this up until very recently. Now he is under contract with Longoni, which created his signature cue selling from $1400ish. And their 500ish dollar cue will have ton of fancy inlays and stuff on them!
And if a top pro like Semih Sayginer (I don't know if you heard of him..but...he knows a little about how to play 3-c and artistique and dozens of best house players play with Eurasia Super Pro series...it means something!
You can also look at Ceulemans brand on the e-bay.
Other two top brands for 3-c, carambolage, one rail (lets call them all as carom) are ADAM and LONGONI.
Adam, Longoni and to some degree Eurasia. These are all brands that have proven itself for the last 40 years of European as well as Asian markets (just like Dieckman proved itself in U.S, where actually not too many people play this
Not just pros play with it. 10s of thousands of carom, especially 3-c players would want to buy and dream of a top of the line Longoni or Adam
I can personally guarantee that these brands I mentioned will play MUCH BETTER than that home operation Dieckman cues, especially for the price lol.
If you want cues that have proven itself among PLAYERS and PRO PLAYERS, and in European market (where it is normal to have 2000 carom tables and thousands and thousands of 3-c players in a city of 3-4 million)
For a cheaper cue of around $500, I can suggest EURASIA brand (Semih Sayginer played with this up until very recently. Now he is under contract with Longoni, which created his signature cue selling from $1400ish. And their 500ish dollar cue will have ton of fancy inlays and stuff on them!
And if a top pro like Semih Sayginer (I don't know if you heard of him..but...he knows a little about how to play 3-c and artistique
and dozens of best house players play with Eurasia Super Pro series...it means something!You can also look at Ceulemans brand on the e-bay.
Other two top brands for 3-c, carambolage, one rail (lets call them all as carom) are ADAM and LONGONI.
Adam, Longoni and to some degree Eurasia. These are all brands that have proven itself for the last 40 years of European as well as Asian markets (just like Dieckman proved itself in U.S, where actually not too many people play this
Not just pros play with it. 10s of thousands of carom, especially 3-c players would want to buy and dream of a top of the line Longoni or Adam I can personally guarantee that these brands I mentioned will play MUCH BETTER than that home operation Dieckman cues, especially for the price lol.
So much red rep...so little mind
This is my first few carom cues that i have, What do you think? They hit pretty good. Is any one know any cue makers out there make fancy inlaid carom cues that play as good as Dieckman cues? Please let me know, Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Peter.
You have a gorgeous collection. I hit with the fisrt cue in your array (or one like it). All Dieckman cues are special to me. Thanks for posting.
The answer to your question is that there are many fine carom cues out there. Some of the top players have their own lines and if shopping internationally, one can find good carom cues across the world.
I have played with as many as I have had opportunity to try. None hit like my Dieckman.
LOL I havent even realized I got RED rep! LOL That red rep does not mean a thing to me lol.
Come to Europe. Come to where we play 3 cushion day and nite 10 hours a day. Mr. Drawman, I really would like you to show me how to draw the ball.
And then watch me draw the ball 2mm apart from the red ball, 4 cushions around the table and point :wink:
Maybe then will I get green reputation?
P.S: Imagine Mike Massey + Eric Yaw(?) = 1 pinkie finger of Semih Saygıner
Edit: If a player could learn carom by high post counts on a forum and green reps, you could have become the grandmaster by now! LOL
I will stick with the traditional method from old world. I practise 4-6 hrs a day on a BAD day.
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This is my first few carom cues that i have, What do you think? They hit pretty good. Is any one know any cue makers out there make fancy inlaid carom cues that play as good as Dieckman cues? Please let me know, Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Peter.
What is the butt diameter of these cues? Maybe my eyes are playing an illusion but it appears those have smaller butt diameters than a legitimate carom cue. They exactly appear like pool cues with no wrapping and a short ferrule!!! These cues may suffice a pool player's taste, but would never give what a 3 cushion (not pool player) wants in a cue. The butt diameter has to be bigger in order to force the extreme english and other force shots, as balls are bigger in 3 cushion than pool. (imagine a bigger triangle's base line)
Well you made me do it. I happen to have a Longoni (one of the original designs) and the butt diameter is .5mm smaller than both my Dieckman cues. Don't know how that proves a single thing but if thats your criteria then Longoni loses.
In my opinion, although both Longoni and Adams can come up with some decent cues, both are production houses. Dieckman is a custom builder. Member of HOF. Smithsonian collection and mentor to dozens if not hundreds of cue builders and President of the USBA. All this would not be possible if he were a wood chopping hobbyist.
Lastly the top players that play with Longoni and Adams cues are paid to do so.
In my opinion, although both Longoni and Adams can come up with some decent cues, both are production houses. Dieckman is a custom builder. Member of HOF. Smithsonian collection and mentor to dozens if not hundreds of cue builders and President of the USBA. All this would not be possible if he were a wood chopping hobbyist.
Lastly the top players that play with Longoni and Adams cues are paid to do so.
Come to Europe. Come to where we play 3 cushion day and nite 10 hours a day. Mr. Drawman, I really would like you to show me how to draw the ball.
I would prefer to show you how to respect others first. That WOULD take care of the red by your name and it wouldn't hurt your draw shot either.
The one point we seem to agree upon is that Sayginer is a great player. I recall an interview where he discussed part of his philosophy about learning the game. He faces his weaknesses and practices hard to improve. That sounds easy, but at least for me it is not.
I have the uttmost respect for Mr. Sayginer's talent and his approach to learning. I hope, at the very least, we can agree on that.
I would prefer to show you how to respect others first. That WOULD take care of the red by your name and it wouldn't hurt your draw shot either.
The one point we seem to agree upon is that Sayginer is a great player. I recall an interview where he discussed part of his philosophy about learning the game. He faces his weaknesses and practices hard to improve. That sounds easy, but at least for me it is not.
I have the uttmost respect for Mr. Sayginer's talent and his approach to learning. I hope, at the very least, we can agree on that.
If you want a cue to collect, I don't know a thing about Dieckman cues but perhaps you shall stick with that since they seem to be worth in people's mind for U.S market. Personally, Dieckman cues does not worth a dime to me, because I don't collect. I play.
If you want cues that have proven itself among PLAYERS and PRO PLAYERS, and in European market (where it is normal to have 2000 carom tables and thousands and thousands of 3-c players in a city of 3-4 million)
For a cheaper cue of around $500, I can suggest EURASIA brand (Semih Sayginer played with this up until very recently. Now he is under contract with Longoni, which created his signature cue selling from $1400ish. And their 500ish dollar cue will have ton of fancy inlays and stuff on them!
And if a top pro like Semih Sayginer (I don't know if you heard of him..but...he knows a little about how to play 3-c and artistique
You can also look at Ceulemans brand on the e-bay.
Other two top brands for 3-c, carambolage, one rail (lets call them all as carom) are ADAM and LONGONI.
Adam, Longoni and to some degree Eurasia. These are all brands that have proven itself for the last 40 years of European as well as Asian markets (just like Dieckman proved itself in U.S, where actually not too many people play this
I can personally guarantee that these brands I mentioned will play MUCH BETTER than that home operation Dieckman cues, especially for the price lol.
ipitythefool, Thank for the opinion. But Pro Players will use whatever Sponsor , they can get and then use that cue. Dieckman are player cue not sponsor of any player. His price are high for fool like you.
Oh, by the way 3Cushion Billiard is an America Game, why do I want to use a Foreign Cue , when I can use an American Cue.
Funny you never mention Schuler Cue?????
Negative comment, with 18 posts . Sir you're a laughzzzzzzzzzz.
.- Not to mention that your dearly loved ADAM cue company (Yes, ADAM) was founded and directed for many years by AMERICANS
http://www.theadamcueco.com/
It was an American cuemaker (Helmstetter) who taught the Japanese people at Adam how to make excellent CAROM and pool cues to sell it to the European.
And Yes, 3 cushion billiards was invented in USA and the first championship was also played here (in St Louis, 1878, to be precise).
For many years USA was the unbeatable worldwide leader till the decline in popularity of the game in the early 50's.
Have you heard of Hoppe, Cochran, Peterson, etc?
Ah! And the Maple that Longoni, Adam, Alcalde, Eurasia, BCE, Hanbat, and virtually any cuemaker in the world uses on their shafts and cues comes also from North America
Also, Eric Yow and Mike Massey are not professional, dedicated 3 cushion players and they don't play on 3 cushion's championships neither national or international (although they play very good). They are POOL Players, Trickshooters and Showmen.
And last but not least, The Eurasia cue showed by Sayginer is not a Super Pro, it's a Hi Pro. So you don't even know what model is the cue you are selling.
http://www.theadamcueco.com/
It was an American cuemaker (Helmstetter) who taught the Japanese people at Adam how to make excellent CAROM and pool cues to sell it to the European.
And Yes, 3 cushion billiards was invented in USA and the first championship was also played here (in St Louis, 1878, to be precise).
For many years USA was the unbeatable worldwide leader till the decline in popularity of the game in the early 50's.
Have you heard of Hoppe, Cochran, Peterson, etc?
Ah! And the Maple that Longoni, Adam, Alcalde, Eurasia, BCE, Hanbat, and virtually any cuemaker in the world uses on their shafts and cues comes also from North America
Also, Eric Yow and Mike Massey are not professional, dedicated 3 cushion players and they don't play on 3 cushion's championships neither national or international (although they play very good). They are POOL Players, Trickshooters and Showmen.
And last but not least, The Eurasia cue showed by Sayginer is not a Super Pro, it's a Hi Pro. So you don't even know what model is the cue you are selling.
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