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to much of a closeup.....lol..........just got a camera , never had one before..............please don't start givin mr grief............I'm just tryin things out.
 
ELBeau said:
So how was the reception on these at Valley Forge? I haven't heard a thing!
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He never called me while at SBE I figure either they were great and someone bought them all right away or he didnt make it there. I had no problem spending my money on other things there so im still happy :wink:
 
I am pretty sure it was him that came by my booths and showed me the wood. He did have some tight grain wood. The pieces of wood he showed had a little more grain run out than most want. But other than that it was okay wood. I would call it average for shaft wood, other than the high growth ring count which was above average. I have seen better wood sold for shaftwood and I have seen worse wood sold for shaft wood. It was about average for amount of sugar lines and so forth. The advantage that wood has over most of what you can buy is it is older wood. If super clean appearance and super straight grain are not your priorities, then the seasoned age of the wood might make it a good choice for you.
 
cueman said:
I am pretty sure it was him that came by my booths and showed me the wood. He did have some tight grain wood. The pieces of wood he showed had a little more grain run out than most want. But other than that it was okay wood. I would call it average for shaft wood, other than the high growth ring count which was above average. I have seen better wood sold for shaftwood and I have seen worse wood sold for shaft wood. It was about average for amount of sugar lines and so forth. The advantage that wood has over most of what you can buy is it is older wood. If super clean appearance and super straight grain are not your priorities, then the seasoned age of the wood might make it a good choice for you.
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That sounds like a pretty far cry from 30-40.00 per shaft quality. Truthfully, the shaft wood that is purchased at normal prices are usually plenty great enough for shafts. Most dealers know what is needed and sell that item. Although some dealers will have a little clearer wood or a little more consistent grain, I can think of no reason or benefits that would justify some shaft wood to bring prices 3, 4 or even 5 times higher than others. It's just like most used car salesmen, all hype and salesmanship pumping up their product. Other times, it may be just like this fellow, He knows wood but is not really a shaft wood dealer who really knows what cue makers are looking for. He just knows that he has some exceptional maple and has heard that cue makers are often fanatical about their materials and would have no problem paying exorbitant prices. I, myself, do have a problem. To many people fall into the HYPE trap.

Dick
 
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rhncue said:
That sounds like a pretty far cry from 30-40.00 per shaft quality. Truthfully, the shaft wood that is purchased at normal prices are usually plenty great enough for shafts. Most dealers know what is needed and sell that item. Although some dealers will have a little clearer wood or a little more consistent grain, I can think of no reason or benefits that would justify some shaft wood to bring prices 3, 4 or even 5 times higher than others. It's just like most used car salesmen, all hype and salesmanship pumping up their product. Other times, it may be just like this fellow, He knows wood but is not really a shaft wood dealer who really knows what cue makers are looking for. He just knows that he has some exceptional maple and has heard that cue makers are often fanatical about their materials and would have no problem paying exorbitant prices. I, myself, do have a problem. To many people fall into the HYPE trap.

Dick
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Hi,

I totally agree with Dick. Shaft wood is cheap if you process it yourself.

I have a source for maple from Northern Michigan Kiln Dried 5/4 stock planks that are stored indoors. When I want material, I call them the day before and they bring a bunk of planks into the customer area for me to pick from. I go through the boards and hand pick very straight 1/4 sawed, clear boards with high growth and low sugar.

They rip the boards to 5/4 squares and cut them to 30". Between the material purchase and the charge for cutting, I am paying about $2.90 per shaft. I run them through my doweling machine to produce 1" dowels. Because I hand pick the wood and have a reliable source for the good kiln dried stuff, so far I am rejecting less that 2% of my wood. Since I use a single 29" solid dowel through all my cues and core all components, I have close to zero waste of material.

Today I have over 800 dowels and shafts in my shop in various stages of taper sizes. I have spend about a total of 8 hours to hand pick the boards on 3 trips I have made this hardwood supplier. Paying a high cost for a shaft is something you don't have to do!

Rick Geschrey
 
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scdiveteam said:
Hi,

I totally agree with Dick. Shaft wood is cheap if you process it yourself.

I have a source for maple from Northern Michigan Kiln Dried 5/4 stock planks that are stored indoors. When I want material, I call them the day before and they bring a bunk of planks into the customer area for me to pick from. I go through the boards and hand pick very straight 1/4 sawed, clear boards with high growth and low sugar.

They rip the boards to 5/4 squares and cut them to 30". Between the material purchase and the charge for cutting, I am paying about $2.90 per shaft. I run them through my doweling machine to produce 1" dowels. Because I hand pick the wood and have a reliable source for the good kiln dried stuff, so far I am rejecting less that 2% of my wood. Since I use a single 29" solid dowel through all my cues and core all components, I have close to zero waste of material.

Today I have over 800 dowels and shafts in my shop in various stages of taper sizes. I have spend about a total of 8 hours to hand pick the boards on 3 trips I have made this hardwood supplier. Paying a high cost for a shaft is something you don't have to do!

Rick Geschrey
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It must be nice to live near the source. Down south we have to pay premium prices for guys up your way to hand pick what we want.
 
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